Indian-Ambassador-to-Rome-Augustus-Zarmanos-Khagan

 

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Strabon-Geography-Book-15

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Strabon bundan 2000 yıl önce 'Coğrafya' adlı betiğinde şunu yazıyor: "Burada, Hintli atalarının geleneklerine uygun olarak kendini ölümsüzleştiren Bargosalı bir Hintli olan Zarmanochegas yatıyor." Peki, Hindistan Bargosa'dan İmparator Augustus'a gönderilen bu elçi kimin nesi?

ENGLISH:

Strabo writes this 2000 years ago in his book called 'Geography': 

"Here lies Zarmanochegas, an Indian from Bargosa who immortalized himself in accordance with the traditions of his Indian ancestors."

 So, who is this envoy sent from India Bargosa to Emperor Augustus?

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Strabons Erdbeschreibung: in siebzehn Büchern, Volume 3

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Adı Zarman-os/Sarman-os Khagan! Çoğu bilen adam, adamın namını zaten Türkçe Kağan ile açıklamış. Ama niyeyse adın kökeninde zorlanmışlar biraz. Cahil cesareti gösterip diyeyim: Neden SARMAN olmasın? Sarman Türkçemizde bol: Azman, iri; sarı (ak) anlamları var.

ENGLISH:

Most scholars have already explained the man's title/nick as Turkish Kagan.

 But for some reason they had difficulty with the origin of his name ZARMANOS.

 Let me show ignorant courage and propose this:

 Why not Turkic SARMAN? 

 There are many "Sarman"s in our Turkish: 

It means very big, great; yellow (white).

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Eski Türkçe +man/men eki karşımıza çok çıkan bir ek. Renk adlarından ad yapar: >Alman, Akman, Karaman... * Bu elçinin adı niye bu şekilde açıklanmasın? Yani Ak/Sarı saçlı adam > SARMAN KAĞAN * 2000 yıl önce Hindistan'dan Roma'ya gelen elçi Türk. Daha ne yazayım bre?

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ENGLISH:

The old Turkish +man/men suffix is a very common suffix. 

Makes names from color names like: 

>Al(RED)man, Ak(WHITE)man, Kara(BLACK)man... 

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Why shouldn't this ambassador's name be revealed in this way? 

SARMAN-OS/ZARMAN-OS = white/blonde haired

 > SARMAN KAGAN 

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Turkish ambassador who came to Rome from India 2000 years ago. A Turk who should visit Rome as Indian ambassador... 

 What else should I write?

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Bargosa - India 

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LINKS:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/The_Gnostics_and_their_remains%2C_ancient_and_mediaeval_%28IA_gnosticstheirrem00king_0%29.pdf

https://books.google.de/books?id=zARMAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA93&lpg=PA93&dq=Zarmanos+chagan&source=bl&ots=G_s8kGKgVy&sig=ACfU3U0PM8Xk8MMlm-oR3YrF142r3ARA9w&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi4hJvQzfyAAxUaXvEDHcs5CJoQ6AF6BAgMEAM#v=onepage&q=chagan&f=false

https://archive.org/stream/journalroyalasi11irelgoog/journalroyalasi11irelgoog_djvu.txt

https://books.google.de/books?id=5v_wDEUJJj4C&pg=PA166&lpg=PA166&dq=zarmanos+chegan%C2%A0&source=bl&ots=Sci6glNH38&sig=ACfU3U3uf8eJIZHCn35NiRWTQmH6--pZIw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiejcaf_PyAAxUtXvEDHaOSBywQ6AF6BAgfEAM#v=onepage&q=zarmanos%20chegan%C2%A0&f=false

https://dergipark.org.tr/tr/download/article-file/136986

https://www.jstor.org/stable/f26942a2-fd9e-3ba7-997d-5b0b9e95b277?seq=1

https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0239%3Abook%3D15#note-link2

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Greek-and-Roman-Geography-terms-letters-P-R

 

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William Smith'in Yunan ve Roma Coğrafyası Sözlüğünden İsimler (1854)

Bu kez bir Türk'ün penceresinden.

P ve R harfleri

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Names from the Dictionary of Greek and Roman Geography by William Smith (1854)

This time from the window of a Turk. 

Letters P & R

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Tufts original	Meaning	Turkic word	Meaning	Further info
Pacyris	a river	Bakir	copper	the color of the water red?
Paesus	an ancient town on the coast of Troas, derived its name from the small river Paesus, on which it was situated, and now bears the name Beiram-Dere.	pay~bay: rich	su: water	small river? there is dam > BAYSU
Pagasae	a, town of Magnesia in Thessaly, and at the foot of the rocks are many copious sources of water, of which Strabo speaks	çay: small river, shallow
Palacium	A fortress on Crimea	balak: little child, son	the name of the last Scythian king of the region	BALIK? > city?
Pamisus (3x)	all name of a river		su: water
Panysus	a river of Moesia Inferior, flowing into the Euxine at Odessus (Varna)		su: water
Parnasus	a town in the northern part of Cappadocia, on the right bank of the Halys		su: water
Pegasus	a small town of Mysia, on the river Satnioeis, which is mentioned by Homer		su: water
Permessus	was a stream rising in Mount Helicon		su: water
Phrixus	a tributary of the Erasimus, in the Argeia		su: water
Phusipara	a town of the district of Melitene in Armenia Minor, between Ciniaca and Eusemara	ara:	the place between
Peingitae	a people in European Sarmatia	bengü: eternal	tae: ta? (Mountain)
Pinara	A large city of Lycia, at the foot of Mount Cragus, and not far from the western bank of the river Xanthus /2. A town of Cilicia	BINGAR	spring, mouth of a river
Pinarus	An ancient river SE Türkiye	BINGAR	BUNGAR: mist	near ISSUS: su : water
Pindassus	a mountain in the south of Mysia, a branch of Mount Temnus, stretching towards the Sinus Elaeus, and containing the sources of the river Cetius		su: water
Pisingara	town of uncertain site in Armenia Minor	ara:	place between
Priantae	a people of Thrace, on the Hebrus.	taw	mountain
Prinassus	a town in Caria, of uncertain site		su: water	uncertain! maybe on a bank if a river
Pyretus	A river in Scythia, Scythian Porata(possibly),[6]Hierasus (Ἱέρασος, Hiérasos) or Gerasius		su: water	Prut
Pyrustae	according to Strabo (vii. p.314), a tribe of Pannonia, but undoubtedly the same people as the Illyrian PIRUSTAE	taw	mountain
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Ramadava	A town in Dacia	ova/oba	dwelling place, camp
Rhosus	a coastal town in Hatay Province, Asian Turkey		su: water
Runicatae	an Alpine tribe in the north-east of Vindelicia between the Oenus and Danubius		tae: ta? (Mountain)

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Greek-and-Roman-Geography-terms-letters-M-N-O

 

William Smith'in Yunan ve Roma Coğrafyası Sözlüğünden İsimler (1854)

Bu kez bir Türk'ün penceresinden.

M N ve O harfleri

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Names from the Dictionary of Greek and Roman Geography by William Smith (1854)

This time from the window of a Turk. 

Letters M&N&O

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Tufts original	Meaning	Turkic word	Meaning	Further info
Macestus	a tributary of the river Rhyndacus		su: water	sus < > tus is possible
Marcodava	a town of Dacia	bark: house, dwelling place	ova/oba: cavity, valley
Marisus	a river of Dacia		su: water
Mermessus	a town in Troas or Mysia (unknown location)		su: water
Myonnesus	a promontory on the south-west of Lebedus, on the coast of Ionia, at the northern extremity of the bay of Ephesus.		su: water
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Naissus	an important town in Upper Moesia, situated in the district Dardania, upon an eastern tributary of the river Margus		su: water
Nasus	a town name		su: water
Nessus/Nestus	the river which constituted the boundary of Thrace and Macedonia in the time of Philip and Alexander		su: water
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Ochosbanes	a small river of Paplilagonia, falling into the bay of Armene, a little to the north of Sinope	ögüz	river	Like in „OXUS“
Ochus	A river in Central Asia (parallel to OXUS)	ögüz	river
Odessus	a town on the W. coast of the Euxine, at the mouth of the river	od: fire	su: water
OETA	a mountain in the south of Thessaly	ay: moon	tau: mountain
Ogygia	Homeric name	ok: tribe
Olgassys	a lofty and inaccessible mountain on the frontiers of Paphlagonia and Galatia	?ILGA	to raid on horse	<ILGAR~ILGAZ
Ordessus	an affluent of the Ister		su: water
ORGOCYNI	name of Scythian tribe	örgük	hair braiding	hörgüç: hump of a camel
Oritai	tribe of the sea-coast of Gedrosia,	Ori: high	tai: dag (mountain)	Arrian and Strabo have described them at some length. According to the former, they were an Indian nation,[10] who wore the same arms and dress as those people, but differed from them in manners and institutions.[11]According to the latter they were a race living under their own laws,[4]and armed with javelins hardened at the point by fire and poisoned.[12][1]
Ortacae	small stream of Elymais, which Pliny states flowed into the Persian Gulf;	orta: middle	?çai/sai: small river	like Yenissei
Ortagoreia	ΟΡΘΑΓΟΡΕΩΝ - town in Ancient Thrace	orta: middle	koru: protected place	I have written about that in my blog
Orthe	Ὄρθη a town of Perrhaebia in Thessaly	orta: middle	Ortu (an other possibility to write orta)
Othrys	a lofty chain of mountains, which shuts in the plain of Thessaly from the south	Otrug: island	Ortu~Otru: middle?
Ovilaba	a town of Noricumn, on the road from Laureacum to Augusta Vindelicorum	oba: dwelling place	OGUL/OVIL: Nachkommen, progeny
Oxus	River	Ögüz: river	AKSU: lit. white river

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