Saturday, April 30, 2022

Plutarchs-Characitani-Turkic-Karakitan


Lage des Kara-Kitai-Reiches um 1200


Bu bilgi heryerde yok!

Plutarhos, yaklaşık 2100 yıl önce, Romalı komutan Sertorius tarafından yerlerinden edilen, İspanya’nın Katalonya bölgesinde yaşamış olan Karakitan < Characitani (Χαρακιτανοί) adlı bir halktan bahseder: Adı bana tanıdık geldi!

ENGLISH : Plutarch mentions a people called Karakitan < Characitani (Χαρακιτανοί), who lived in the Spanish region of Catalonia, who were displaced by the Roman commander Sertorius about 2100 years ago. Their names sound familiar to me!
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Source: Characitani




There is a Mongolian tribe called by the Turks Kara Kitan:

Read wiki:

Kara Kitai

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Lage des Kara-Kitai-Reiches um 1200

Die Kara-Kitai oder Kara-Chitai (DMG Qara-Ḫitai, deutsch „schwarze Kitai“) oder Westliche Liao-Dynastie (chinesisch 西遼Pinyin Xī Liáo) waren eine Dynastie, die ein Großreich in Zentralasien – vom Süden des heutigen Kasachstans bis zum heutige Xinjiang – gründete und die Epoche von 1128 bis 1218 entscheidend mitgestaltete, bis ihr Reich von Dschingis Khan erobert wurde.



Qara Khitai

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Great Liao
大遼
1124–1218
Qara Khitai c. 1160
Qara Khitai c. 1160
StatusSinicized Khitan empire in Central Asia
CapitalBalasagun
Common languages
Religion 
Demonym(s)Kara Khitan
GovernmentMonarchy
Emperor 
• 1124–1143 
Emperor Dezong
• 1144–1150 
Empress Gantian (regent)
• 1150–1164 
Emperor Renzong
• 1164–1178 
Empress Dowager Chengtian(regent)
• 1178–1211 
Yelü Zhilugu
• 1211–1218 
Kuchlug
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• Fall of Liao dynasty
1125
• Yelü Dashiproclaims himself king 
1124
• Yelü Dashi adopts the title of Gurkhan
1132
• Yelü Dashi captures Balasagun and establishes capital 
1134
• Kuchlug usurps power 
1211
• Kuchlug executed by Mongols 
1218
• All former territories fully absorbed into Mongol Empire
1220
Area
1130 est.[4]1,000,000 km2 (390,000 sq mi)
1210 est.[5]1,500,000 km2 (580,000 sq mi)
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The Qara Khitai or Kara Khitai (Chinese喀喇契丹pinyinKālā QìdānMongolianХар Хятан; literally "Black Khitan") empire (1124[note 1]–1218),[6] also known as the Western Liao (traditional Chinese西遼simplified Chinese西辽pinyinXī Liáo) dynasty, officially the Great Liao (大遼大辽Dà Liáo),[7][8] was a sinicized[9][10][11]dynastic empire in Central Asia ruled by the Khitan Yelü clan, and a successor state to the Liao dynasty. The dynasty was founded by Yelü Dashi (Emperor Dezong of Liao), who led the remnants of the Liao dynasty from Manchuria to Central Asia after fleeing from the Jin dynasty conquest of their homeland in northern China. The empire was usurped by the Naimans under Kuchlug in 1211; traditional Chinese, Persian, and Arab sources consider the usurpation to be the end of the dynasty,[12] even though the empire would not fall until the Mongol conquest in 1218. The Qara Khitai is considered by historians to be a legitimate dynasty of China, as is the case for the preceding Liao dynasty.[13][14]

The territories of the Qara Khitai corresponded to parts of modern-day ChinaKazakhstanKyrgyzstanMongoliaTajikistan, and Uzbekistan. The Anushtegin dynasty, the KarluksQocho, the Kankalis, and the Kara-Khanid Khanate were vassal states of the Qara Khitai at some point in history.







































































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It is a nice Turkic word "kara" meaning simply BLACK.


A big geographical and time gap and such a similarity.


Interesting!



Uzunbacak Adem

English-sinew-Turkic-sinir


Sinew - Tendon


About English Sinew

and Turkish Sinir Very short thread #protoAltaic #protoTurkic #Indoeuropean #etymology

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They are really similar to each other.
Aren't they?

Even Nisanyan says they have the same root, but doesn't tell more:


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Uzunbacak Adem

British-Boduni-Herodotus-Budini-Turkic-Bodun

Conquests under Aulus Plautius, focused on the commercially valuable southeast of Britain.


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 Romalı komutan Aulus Platius, 2000 yıl önce, Britanya’da BODUNİ adlı kavme boyun eğdirmiş. Bunların bağlaşığı olan ‘Kelt’ kavminin bir başbuğunun adı benim ‘Karatavuk’ diye okuduğum Karatakus imiş.

Bir önceki yazımda Bodun/Bodın/Budun sözcüğüne değinmiştim:

Herodotus' Bodun

Source for Britain Boduni:

Catuellani


ENGLISH VERSION:

Roman commander Aulus Platius subdued a tribe called BODUNI in Britain 2000 years ago. The name of a chief of the 'Celtic' tribe, which is their ally, was Karatakus, which I read as Turkish 'Blackbird'.

I wrote about Herodotus' Bodun word Buduni:

Blog for Herodotus' Budini






Uzunbacak Adem

Sunday, April 24, 2022

Herodotus-Budini-Turkic-word-Budun



 

Herodotus-History-Tarih


Herodotus wrote about nomadic 'the BUDINI' who lived east of Don River. Aristoteles wrote that the Budini had a place called Kariskos where they raised BLACK sheep.

I see here 2 Turkic words:

Budin~Budun (the tribesmen) 
and 
Kar/kara~black. Karisyk; KAra and (SIK?)


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Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budini
and https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/RE:Budinoi

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a Polish scholar attempts an etymological explanation and he found out that their name should mean "tribesmen". 
Budun means simply "tribesmen" in Turkic. 
A very old word. Prof. Osman Karatay wrote about as far as I can remember about this issue in his newest book, too. Interesting?

We come always closer to Scythians' possible Turkic roots with those names like Tauri (Dağ eri = Mountain dwellers) and Budini.

Uzunbacak Adem

Turkish sources:




Gülensoy and Eyuboglu.

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pliny-mieotis-region-and-its-nations

  * Pliny writes about some tribal names near Lake Mieotis. The interesting ones for me are: Sauromatæ Gynæcocratumeni (the husbands of the ...