Friday, April 15, 2022

PreGreek-Azostos-Turkic-az




 ἄζωστος  ázostos ‘ungirt’ 

1.6 Hekate ἄζωστον |Tc (Ψ: εὔζωστον West)
Οnly here as a divine epithet (cf. Hes. Op. 345 γείτονες ἄζωστοι). See OracChald. 188, 195; Synes. H. 1.283 ἄζωνοι.


In Turkish language there is a root az- having many meanings like go astray, lose the right way, run riot....

>azış- means intensify, become stronger.


Can there be a relation?



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source: Πολυώνυμοι A LEXICON OF THE DIVINE EPITHETS IN THE ORPHIC HYMNS - José Marcos Macedo Daniel Kölligan Pedro Barbieri

Ptolemy-List-of-Scythian-Tribes-SATARCHI


Scythian Archer - Iskit Okçusu - Skythischer Bogenschütze - pic: wiki 


Further with Ptolemy’s List of Scythian Tribes 


Very interesting one:

SATARCHI: a people on Krim who carried on their traffic by means of exchange. Proto Turkic root sat- has the meaning both sell/buy (exchange), so that it is 100% compatible with this name >Hungarian szatócs:Grocer

<Proto Altaic *sà-: sell/buy * Suffix -ar: the one who Suffix -chi makes a profession out of a verb. Satarchi ~ the one who exchanges profesionally (Turkic say- to know the worth of sth, to count or to respect). * Nişanyan>Old Turkic root sat- means count equal and exchange
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Ptolemy-List-of-Scythian-Tribes-KARATAI

 

Scythian Art - pic: wiki 


We continue with Ptolemy‘s List of Scythian Tribes:

Summary of the text below: „…Persian called the Scythians as Saka. A branch of them lived in Central Asia. They were nomads. There was a Saka tribe called KARATAI…“


  It seems very Turkic, doesn’t it? 
KARATAI: KARA: Black, Holy, Great TAI: Mountain


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Greek-karpos-Turkish-karpuz

Greek-karpos-Turkish-karpuz

 

Interesting word karpuz = 🇹🇷watermelon

A word with an uncertain etymology:

German Wiktionary says:

wahrscheinlich im mykenischen ka-po bezeugt; zudem besteht vermutlich eine Verwandtschaft zu lateinisch carpere → la, althochdeutsch herbist → goh(neuhochdeutsch Herbst) und litauisch kerpti → lt[1][2]

(probably attested in the Mycenaean ka-po; there is also probably a relationship to Latin carpere → la, Old High German herbist → goh (New High German Herbst) and Lithuanian kerpti → lt[1][2])

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Nisanyan points in addition to its possible Greek origin, 2 Turkish words out> 

kar-buz (Kar: snow / buz: ice) 

 And he adds that the Armenian and Georgian words have similar etymology: 

Armenian ձմերուկ karpuz < ձմեռ kış (winter) 
Georgian საზამთრო karpuz < ზამთარი kış
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They both have to do with winter like the Turkish 
karpuz > kar (snow) + buz (ice) 

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Interesting?

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Saturday, April 9, 2022

Some-Ideas-why-kurgan-can-not-be-IndoEuropean

 

Inside view of the Thracian mound tomb at Sveshtari, Bulgaria-Thracian were no Indo Europeans (pic: wiki)

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I want to quote today a scholar from the work


Toponyms in Strabo's Geography



* Kurgan, a clear sign of  Altaic Steppe Cultures, IndoEuropeans had no kurgans

* Kurgan, a Turkic word, not an IndoEuropean word
*Turkic agro-pastoral terminology in SouthEuropean and Hungarian came to this area with kurgan culture

*Horse raising/riding terminolgy in Slavic/Samoyede/Ugric ist Turkic Base of these theories: Mario Alinei‘s PCT > Paleolithic Continuity Theory! 


* More about Kurgan issue you can find Osman Karatay‘s original ideas in his newest book: The Genesis of the Turks


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Centaur-Riding-Horses-were-foreign-to-Greeks

Centaur Chiron teaching Achilles how to play the lyre, a Roman fresco from Herculaneum, 1st century AD.

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Yarı insan yarı beygir KENTAUR/CENTAUR

Kökenleri hakkında çok söylenti var edebiyatta ve bilimde. Alttaki yazının yazanı diyor ki: ‘Hint Avrupalı Grekler bu yaratıklara bir mitos bahşetmişlerse, ata binmeyi bilmiyorlardı.’ >(atlı savaşçılara da yabancıydılar).

Çünkü ata binmek Altay kavimlerine mahsustu o zamanlar. 
Mario Alinei de blrçok yazısında horse raising ve horse riding terminolojisi Türkçe kaynaklıdır, der.

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ENGLISH VERSION:

Half-man, half-horse KENTAUR 

 There are many rumors about its origins in literature and science. 

 The author of the article below says: 


 ‘If the Indo-European Greeks gave these creatures a myth, they surely didn’t know how to ride horses.’ > (they were also foreign to the mounted warriors).

He is probably right...

Because horseback riding was reserved for the Altai tribes back then.
In many of his articles, Mario Alinei says that the terminology of horse raising and horse riding is of Turkish origin.

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TAU-words-in-Turkic-Greek-Scythian-Celtic-Germanic

 

Map of the Roman empire under Hadrian (ruled 117-38 AD), showing the location of the Chersonnesos Taurike (Crimean peninsula), the home of the Tauri (source: wiki)


Some TAU words in

Turkic and IndoEuropean languages Turkic TAU: mountain Celtic TAUR: mountain Greek place names: Taugetus, Taulara German place names: Tauern, Taunus An old Crimean People Scytho-Tauri > Taurica (the old Name of Crimea) See details on my paper 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼

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Two-Peoples-from-Scythia-Asmanoi-Tektosakes-Ptolemy


Κλαύδιος ΠτολεμαίοςKlaudios Ptolemaios


Batlamyus yaklaşık 1900 yıl önce İskitya’da yaşayan budunların listesini yapmış.

Gözüme ilk çarpan ikisinin adı çok ilginç: Asmanoi ve Tektosakes İkisi Türkçe olsa, ki niye olmasın, ikisi de ‘iğdiş’ anlamına gelebilirdi. ‘İğdişatlı’ iki budun? * Örneğin Ak/Karakoyunlu gibi?

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ENGLISH VERSION

Ptolemy made a list of tribes living in Scythia about 1900 years ago. 
The names of the first two that caught my eye are very interesting: 

 Asmanoi and Tektosakes 

 If both of them were in Turkish (why not?), they could both mean 'castrated'. Two tribes with 'castration'in their names? 

 There are many examples of the tribal names like Ak/Karaoyunlu, where you can see that the Turks call their tribes according to the features of their stock animals.

Asmanoi-Paulys

Tektosakes-Paulys


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My contribution(details):

Uzunbacak Adem ideas about Asmanoi and Tektasokes Scythian tribes



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Transylvanian-Hound-Erdelyi-Kopo-Turkic-kopek




The Transylvanian Hound 

Hungarian: erdélyi kopó [ˈɛrdeːji kopoː]

Romanian: copoi ardelenesc

* kopó is a Turkish derivation. 🇭🇺kopó < Proto🇹🇷Köpek (dog) Kopó has no Finno-Ugric etymo.
This dog came probably with Magyars to Europe in 9th C.


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Pics: Wiki

Sumerian-izi-Turkic-isi




It's about time to head south into the warmer regions. At least on the weekend. I was a long time now, on the steppe :)

* Today an interesting word, a Sumerian word. (pic1&2) 𒉈 • (izi) meaning fire * Could it be related to Old-Turkic isig, meaning hot, warm < isi-? (pic3&4)

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Sources: Nisanyan, starlingdb.org, Wiki, Sumerian Lexicon 3.0

Indo-Scythian-name-Tiastanes-Tuerkic-Tastan

Tiastanes /  Siastansas (pic: wiki) According to Wiki:  Chashtana (Greek: Ϲιαϲτανϲας Siastansas (epigraphic),[2] Τιαστανης Tiastanēs; Brahmi...