Monday, July 20, 2026

Pre-Greek-Kalabotis-versus-Tuerkic-Kalba

Wild garlic (pic: wiki)


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The word καλαβῶτις (kalabōtis) is an exceedingly rare, non-Indo-European ancient Greek word that translates to "onion". [1]

The phonetic and semantic similarity between Greek καλαβ- (kalab-) (+otis is a suffix) and Proto-Turkic *KAlba is striking. We can look that Türkic word in Starostin/Dybo's dictionary:





Greek καλαβῶτις is classed as a Pre-Greek substrate word. This means it belonged to an unknown, ancient indigenous language spoken in the Balkan peninsula before Indo-European Greek speakers arrived.

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And now, of course, it is easier to label this language as "pre-Greek," "isolate," "unknown," or a "lost Eurasian substrate" than to classify it as Turkic.

If I mention the name of this unknown language, it is no longer unknown, is it?

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And again a word: I don't think, that all the pre-Greek (non-Greek) words are of Türkic origin. I say, at least a part of it, anyway.

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Uzunbacak Adem

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Link:

[1] https://pure.manchester.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/86865466/FULL_TEXT.PDF


 

Saturday, July 11, 2026

Sumerian-tag-tug-tuku-Tuerkic-teg-toki-toku

 

Pic: wiki 

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I have here some parallels between Sumerian and Türkic languages:

Sumerian 𒋳  (tag) means to attack, to touch, to bind.[1]

Türkic teg- means to attack, to touch. [2]

Türkic tag-/dag- means to bind to, to add to. [3]

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Sumerian 𒋳  (tuku₅ /tuku/) means to beat ,to strike (of cloth), to weave [4]

Türkic tokı- means to beat, to strike [5]

Türkic toku-/doku means to weave [6]

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Uttu(𒋳𒌆 TAG.TUG₂) was a Mesopotamian goddess associated with weaving. Uttu's name was written TAG×TÙG, with the sign TAG (usually pronounced as tuku) referring to the action of weaving cloth. [7]

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Is it still "coincidence" when it is about the parallels between Türkic and Sumerian?


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TÜRKÇE:

Sümerce ve Türkçe dilleri arasında bazı paralellikler buldum:

Sümerce 𒋳 • (tag) saldırmak, dokunmak, bağlamak anlamına gelir.[1]

Türkçe teg- saldırmak, dokunmak anlamına gelir.[2]

Türkçe tag-/dag- bağlamak, eklemek anlamına gelir.[3]

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Sümerce 𒋳 • (tuku₅ /tuku/) dövmek, vurmak (kumaşa), dokumak anlamına gelir.[4]

Türkçe tokı- dövmek, vurmak anlamına gelir.[5]

Türkçe toku-/doku dokumak anlamına gelir.[6]

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Uttu (𒋳𒌆 TAG.TUG₂), dokuma ile ilişkilendirilen bir Mezopotamya tanrıçasıydı. Uttu'nun adı TAG×TÙG olarak yazılırdı ve TAG işareti (genellikle tuku olarak telaffuz edilir) kumaş dokuma eylemini ifade ederdi. [7]

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Türk ve Sümer dilleri arasındaki paralellikler söz konusu olduğunda hâlâ "rastlantı" mı diyelim?

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Uzunbacak Adem


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Sources:

[1] [4]  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%F0%92%8B%B3

[2][3] [5][6] Starostin / Dybo - Etymological Dictionary of Altaic Languages

[7] https://publikationen.badw.de/en/rla/index#12333

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http://oracc2004.ub.uni-muenchen.de/epsd2/cbd/sux/o0040567.html

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pic: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Weaving_jamdani_at_BSCIC_Jamdani_palli,_Narayanganj_113.jpg

Friday, July 3, 2026

Pre-Greek-words-with-bal-versus-Tuerkic-bal

 



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As I have seen the words below, I have thought of Türkic word bal, meaning honey and mud. [1] 

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Now let us see Pre-Greek Words containing "βάλ":

βάλερος ~ βάλαγρος: carp

κικιβάλους: a kind of shellfish or fish (some freshwater mussels lives in muddy and sandy grounds)

ἀρβάλη: earthen pan

ἀρύβαλλος: a globular oil-flask 

These bal words could be related to Türkic "bal" meaning earth, mud.

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βάλσαμον: balsam

βαλίς: wild fig 

βάλανος: acorn (syrup?)

φοινικοβάλανοι: dates

παλάθη: a kind of cake

παλλιχίαρ: a kind of cake

παλάςια ~ παλάθια: harvested figs


These here can be related to the other Türkic "bal", meaning honey, because of the taste and/or texture. 

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#etymology

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TÜRKÇE:

Aşağıdaki sözcükleri görünce, bal ve çamur anlamına gelen Türkçe "bal" sözcüğünü düşündüm. [1]

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Şimdi de içinde "βάλ" olan Yunanca öncesi sözcüklere bakalım:


βάλερος ~ βάλαγρος: sazan

κικιβάλους: bir tür kabuklu deniz ürünü veya balık (bazı tatlı su midyeleri çamurlu ve kumlu zeminlerde yaşar)

ἀρβάλη: kilden tava

ἀρύβαλλος: Dar boyunlu, küçük, küresel veya küremsi bir şişe


Bu "bal" kelimeleri, toprak, çamur anlamına gelen Türkçe "bal" kelimesiyle ilişkili olabilir.

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βάλσαμον: balsam

βαλίς: yabani incir

βάλανος: meşe palamudu (şurup?)

φοινικοβάλανοι: tarihler

παλάθη : bir çeşit kek

παλλιχίαρ: bir çeşit kek

παλάςια ~ παλάθια: hasat edilmiş incir


Bunlar ise tat ve/veya doku nedeniyle diğer Türk dilinde bal anlamına gelen "bal" ile ilişkilendirilebilir.

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#etimoloji

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Uzunbacak Adem 



Sources:

[1] https://pure.manchester.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/86865466/FULL_TEXT.PDF

Pics: 

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mud_closeup.jpg

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honig#/media/Datei:%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D1%91%D0%B4.jpg



Pre-Greek-Kalabotis-versus-Tuerkic-Kalba

Wild garlic (pic: wiki) * The word  καλαβῶτις  ( kalabōtis ) is an exceedingly rare, non-Indo-European ancient Greek word that translates to...