Tuesday, January 25, 2022

A-List-of-PreGreek-words-versus-Turkish-ones

I have examined the book of Robert Beekes  Book 


Pre-Greek

Phonology,

Morphology, 

Lexicon 


Edited by Stefan Norbruis, 2014


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Pre Greek Lexicon Robert Beekes / Stefan Norbruis, 2014 / Brill


I have found these startling similarities:

Pre-Greek

Meaning

Turkish 

Meaning 

Other Languages

Other Info

τολύπη (tolupe)

ball

top<tolp<tolup

ball

Hittite : taluppa/i

tolup has the Turkish vowel harmony

thalassa

sea

taluy

sea, ocean

Proto Mongolian root : dala>wave, deep place

>Mythological peoples Dominoes /lived at Marmara Sea) and their King Cyzikos (Turkish KIZIK?)

βάραθρον 

βέρεθρον  βέθρον (baratron)


cleft, abyss

bat-

to sink


batur-: to let sink in water

βυθός [m.] ‘depth (of the sea)’ 

BUTHOS

DEPTH

bat-

to sink

Chuvash: puthah ‚: to sink


βαθύς bathus

deep, twilight

bat-

to sink, 

bat- (sun) sunset 

PreGreek? a word with an uncertain etymo

γαῖα GAIA

earth

kaya

rock, a very big stone

German Stein: Weinberg


δνόφος - dnophos

dark, night

tün

dark, night



δρόσος Drosos

dew, pure water AND young animal

duru su

pure water

tur-: to stop, to wait

torun: Enkelkind, Grandchild

ἶρις 

iris

rainbow

eğ-, iy. i- : 

to bend, to curve



κνέφας 

knephas

evening dusk, morning twilight

kün>gün 

day, daylight, sun



σάλος (salos)

turbulent movement of the sea, earthquake

sal->to release, to throw

salla-: to pass with a rafter >sal: rafter


salın-: to shake


derivation >σαλάσσω (salássō): to shake

στόνυξ (Stonyks)

peak of a rock, of a fang, of a claw 


toynak, tunguk

the nail of an animal (generally of horse and donkey)

Turkish: tun-: to close

s-mobile?>tonyks?

φάραγξ (pharangks)

ravine, cleft, abyss

bere<bert-

to injure lightly, 



χηρᾰμός (khēramós

hole, cleft, hollow

kır-

to dig, 


to engrave to scratch out

ἄνθραξ, 

antrax

charcoal, rubin

yan-

to burn, to shine

ἀνδράχλη ἀγρία = semiz otu, yanmaya dayanıklı ot. 

yandur-: to turn, to revolve, yandır-: (Modern Turkish) to let sth. burn, to make sth. burn

ἄσβολος (aspolos)= soot related to ψόλος(psolos)=soot

soot, 

pus, bu

soot



βάλλεκα [?](balleka) · ψῆφον ‘pebble’ 


pebble (a material to build?)

balık/balçık

mud, swamp



θυμάλωψ - thumalops

piece of burning wood or charcoal

tuman

smoke, 


<tu-: to close

κάχληξ, -ηκος 

kakhleks, kakhlikos

pebble stone, 

çakıl

pebble


OT çagıl, çıgıl = onom. the sound of the crushing stones

κίσηρις - kisseris

pumice stone

hışır taşı

pumice stone

<hışır onom. wenn things rub each other 


πέλλα 

pella

stone

bel

hill



σῆραγξ, -γγος 

sirangs

cave hollowed out by water

sür-

to lead, exile, drive



ἀκακία 

akakia

a tree

ağaç

tree


<ıġaç (Old Turkish)

ἄκαστος akastos

maple tree

ağaç

tree



Herodots Aces River in his Historia


ak= white, su: water

ak-: to flow



Ὦξος >Oxus

a river

Aksu= White water

Ögüz= river



ἄχερδος(ákherdos)

wild pear

kertme

wild pear

Hungarian körtvély>körte: pear.

Turkish kert-: to graft

ἐλαία, elaya

olive, olive tree

yağ

oil, butter

Nisanyan: Ermenice yeġ/yüġ իւղ"zeytinyağı" ile benzerliği muammadır. Ermenice sözcük Eski Yunanca wélaia > Latince oleum "zeytinyağı" eşdeğeridir.

Nisanyan dolaylı olarak Türkce ve Yunanca sözcük arasında bag kurar

κιρκαία, kirkaia 


swallow-wort

karğılaç

swallow



διφθέρα(diphthera)

leather ,skin

deri

skin



σκάλοψ, skalops

mole

sokur

mole



ἀσκάλαβος 

askalabos

gecko, lizard

keler

lizard

>kertenkele


βάλαγρος, balagros

a kind of fish

balık

fish



many word with -βος or πίος 


mostly insects


bö, bo

insect

>Böcek bögü


οὔλαφος 

oulaphos

corpse

öl-

to die

<ὄλλυμι (ollymi)

make an end of living beings

σιαγών, siagon

jaw, jawbone

çiğne, çeyne

to chew

Turkish yanak: Cheek

Proto Turkic *čAj-na- : to chew, to bite

στόρθυγξ,stór.tʰyŋks

cusp, tine (of an antler), fang, cape, etc 


toynak, tungak, tırnak

nail, hoof

Proto Turkic *tubńa-k


φαλλός 

fallos

penis

bel

belly; sperm, penis

Greek φάλης, -ητος (Sophr.) and βαλλίον 


βαλλίον : bel???

ὠλίγγη, olinge

doze, short nap, short sleepwrinkles beside the eyescrow's feet

al-: take a rest; alangu-: to get tired

alın: forehead, front



κλανίον, klanion

bracelet

kol

arm



ἄσιλλα, asilla

yoke for carrying  basket 

as-

to hang

asili: hung


δοίδυξ, doiduks

pestle

döv-: 

to press

<tög-


κόρυς, korus

helmet

koru-

to protect



ξίφος 

Ksipos

sword

kes-

to cut



πέλεκυς , pelekus

axe

balta

axe



τόξον 

tokson

bow

ok

arrow



εὔληρα, evlira

reins

ip <yip

rope, string



γέφῡρα 

gephura

bridge

köprü

bridge



ἄναξ, anaks

lord, kin

khan

lord, king



βασιλεύς beasileus


king

baš

king, the first 



μέλλαξ: mellaks

young boy

bala

child



κάβαισος, kabaisos

glutton

kaba

big, fat

other cversion κᾰ́βᾰσος(kábasos)


βαλβίς, balbis

rope

baġla-

to bind, to tif down



αὐλή, aule

courtyard

ağıl 

stockyard, sheepfold


Ancient Greek word

ὄρυμος 

orumos

altar

orun 

thron


Turkish or has to do with a hole in the earth now look at Greek word ὄρυγμα, ‘pit’, , ὀρυκτός dug, formed by digging


ψῡχή 

psuke

aspiration, breath, life, vitality, soul (of the deceased), spirit’ 


pus, bus

bus-: to grieve; bu>bus=pus: breathe, to breathe; mist, fog, steam, vapor



ἀβέρβηλον 

ἀβύρβηλον 

aberbilon, abirbilon

much, heavy 

great, burdensome

ağır

heavy, valuable, expensive



ἄγχραν 

short sighted; ἄκαρον 

blind


kör-

to see

Proto-Altaic:*gŏ̀re 

göz: eye

ἄφνω

suddenly

anta

suddenly


ap: Turkish booster prefix 

ἥρως 

heros

lord, Beschützer

arı-

to get clean, to get pure


καθαρός clean < ARI-?

βριτύ 

britu

sweet 

bor

(red) wine 


bar: fruit

γρῡπός 

grupos

hooknosed, curved

egri: curved

burun: nose <bu? (steam)

bo: böcek? (animal?)

or bur-: to smell?

ἀκτή 

akti

corn

ek-: to sow

Chuvash ak-: to sow

Hungarian eke: plough


κάγκανος, kangkanos

arid, barren, hunger, pain 

kan-:

to be satisfied, without lacking of something

Sumerian kankal: hard soil


καρπάλιμος 

karpalimos

swift. quick

çap-: to go swiftly, çabuk: fast

çap-: to get faster


çarup/çaruk: a kind of leather shoe

κραῦρος, κράμβος 


similar meanings: dry, fragile

kuru

dry

Turkish noun kır: mountain, outside of the cultural spaces

kır-: to dig

σαλός, salos

foolish

salık, salım

foolish, rough, crude, impolite



ψόθος psotos

soot

is < ış 

duman kokusu, duman izi

pus<bu

fog, smoke

ἐξαλαπάζω, eksalapazo

to drain, plunder, destroy

bosaltmak

to drain


al-: to take 

Ὀδυσσεύς 

odysseus

name

oduz

marshall



Κώρυκος, korukos

a place located at the mouth of the valley called Şeytan deresi, Corycus

koru-koy

koy: valley, koru: protect; kara: black 




Ca. 70-80 words of 1000 I have found a possible etymology. Ok ok. If you believe, the Turkish language is not that old, I can not help you. Check them out. Convince yourself.

7,5 % is not bad. Am I wrong?

Uzunbacak Adem

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