Homeric-words-with-possible-Turkic-etymo-Letter-A

Homeric words with a possible Türkic etymology. Letter A.

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Homeric word	meaning	Türkic word	meaning	other info
ἀβακέω , aor. ἀβάκησαν:	word of doubtful meaning, be unaware, suspect nothing, Od. 4.249.†	Abı-:	to hide, to cover	abakı: scarecrow (there is a kind of awareness, unawareness, tricky, etc…)
Ἀβαρβαρέη	a Trojan fountainnymph, Il. 6.22.	ab-:	to gush it, flow, gush
Ἄβα_ς	son of the dream-reader Eurydamas, slain by Diomed, Il. 5.148.	aba	bear	aba: father, elder, ancestor
ἀγα-	an old adv., later ἄγαν, employed only as a prefix, greatly, strongly, highly.	aga/aka	PTurk. *(i)āka 1 elder brother; elder uncle; father; grandfather 2 re- spectful address 3 elder
Ἀγάθων	son of Priam, Il. 24.249.	aga-ton	respectable dressed?	ton: dress, clothes
ἄγαλμα(ἀγάλλομαι):	anything in which one takes delight or pride, a ‘treasure,’ Il. 4.144; applied to votive offerings, Od. 3.274; a sacrificial victim, Od. 3.438; horses, Od. 4.602; personal adornments, Od. 18.300.	al-:	to take, receive,	alma? the things that you took? / (better suggestion would be) ağılık: treasure (Fuzuli Bayat)
ἀγά-ρροος ([σ]ῥέω)	strong-flowing, Ἑλλήσποντος, Il. 2.845.	akar	that that flows	<ak-: to flow
ἀγελαῖος (ἀγέλη)	of the herd, herding	ağıl	animal shelter, fenced area	Acc. to Nisanyan, a Wanderwort
ἄγρη	hunt, chase	eker/agar	hunting dog	Hungarian agár (Hunting dog)
ἀγρός	There are many agro words meaning field, country, etc.	kır/gır	1 isolated mountain 2 mountain top, mountain ridge 3 steppe, desert, level ground 4 edge
ἀγχι-βαθής	deep near the shore, Od. 5.413†	bat-:	to sink	there are many ἀγχιwords in Homeric dict, meaning near, Turkic YAKIN, meaning near, to come near?
ἄελλα	gust of wind, blast, squall; of a whirlwind, Il. 16.374.	yel	wind	See Amazon Aella
ἀηδών	singer/nightengale	ay-/ayit-:	to say	to declare
ἀήτης	wind	ay	cold	>ayaz
ἄητος	word of doubtful meaning, stormy, impetuous (if from ἄημι）;	ay	cold	ayti (got cold?)
ἀθηρη-λοιγός	chaffdestroyer, designation of a winnowingshovel	at-: to throw (werfen) > atar: that that throws	atar/atir	German Wurfschaufel
Αἴα_ς	AYAS (Latin Ayax)	Ayas	Beyaz yüzlü köle	Ayaz is also possible (the cold one?)
αἴγεος = αἴγειος,	goat’s …	geyik	wild goat, roe	geyiğin…
αἰόλλω	turn quickly	yol	yol-: to take a walk, to travel; road; travel
αἰολο-θώρηξ :	there are many ayolo words	yal-; to burn, to glitter
αἰόλος	quick - moving, lively; of wasps (μέσον, ‘at the waist’), gad - fly (‘darting’), serpent (‘squirming’), worms (‘wriggling’); then glancing, shimmering, of lively (changeable) colors, esp. metallic, Il. 5.295, Il. 7.222.			all having to do with glitter’
αἱρέω	take as one's own, to or for oneself, choose; of taking food, robbing or stripping another, taking an oath from one	Chuv. ojъr-;	to seperate	Modern Turkish AYIR-: to seperate, to reserve
αίδως	shame (acc. to Beekes etymo uncertain)	uja-:	to be ashamed; shame	uyat/uyad: to be ashamed, shame >  Modern Turkish utanmak
αἴθων / Aithon	shining	ayton/aydon	moon-dressed, shiny clothed	ton/don is a special term for the color of a horse, too There are many horses that have this nickname
Αἴσων	son of Cretheus and Tyro, father of Jason, and king in Iolcus, Od. 11.259.	ay: moon	sun-: to stretch > he who stretches (his hand) to moon?	son: the last one (Aysun is still a name in Modern Türkiye, mostly a female name) Ayson would be the wish for a last kid. There are many names like that like Soner (the last soldier) the wish for a last kid.
αἰτίζω (stronger than αἰτέω): beg, importune. (Od.)	αἰτέω , fut. -ήσω, aor. part. -ήσα_σα: ask, demand, beg, sue for; abs., of a mendicant, Od. 18.49;	Ayti-: to ask,	ay: at the beginning of a sentence to emphasize that somebody wants to say sth	*ạj-ɨt- 1 to say 2 to prescribe, tell 3 to ask, demand 4 to con- cern, AYIT-: could mean also to punish
Αἰτώλιος, Αἰτωλός	Aetolian	ay: moon	tolu: full	aytolu: full moon (a beautiful person)
ἀκαλα - ρρείτης(ἀκαλός)	gentlyflowing; epith. of Oceanus, Il. 7.422 and Od. 19.434.	ak-:	to flow
ἀκοντίζω	hurl the javelin, hurl	akın	plunder/robbery expedition	<Ak-: to flow        (~> akındı: he flew into the zone of the enemy) similar words form the dict: ἀκοντιστής: javelin-thrower, javelineer; ἀκοντιστυ?ς : contest of the dart, Il. 23.622.
ἄκρη	summit, promontory, cape;	kır	isolated mountain 2 mountain top, mountain ridge 3 steppe, desert, level ground 4 edge
ἄ - κρητος(κεραννῦμι)	unmixed, pure.	kir	dirt
ἀκρίς , ίδος:	locust, pl., Il. 21.12†.	? *sarɨnčga locust (саранча): Karakh. sarɨčɣa (MK); MTurk. sarɨnčqan (AH); Khak. sarɨsxa, sarɨnčqa ‘a k. of dragonfly’; Oyr. sarɨšqa, sarɨsqa.	? *čekü-rtke locust, grasshopper
ἀκρό-πολις	Citadel of Troy	Kır-balik?	high city?
Ἀκτορίς	an attendant of Penelope, Od. 23.228†.	Ak-tur	white-stop, or keep on flowing? It could be a nice Old Turkic name
Ἄκτωρ :	son of Azeus, Il. 2.513.— (2) father of Menoetius, Il. 11.785, Il. 16.14. —(3) son of Phorbas, brother of Augeas, and father of the Ἀκτορίωνε.— (4) father of Echecles.	ak-tur	white-stop, or keep on flowing? It could be a nice Old Turkic name
ἀλαλητός (cf. ἀλαλάζω, and for the reduplication also ὀλολύζω, ἐλελεῦ, etc.):	oud, resounding yell, yelling, war-cry, of a tumultuous throng; usually a triumphant outcry, but raised by the panic-stricken victims of Achilles, Il. 21.10;	alakır	ala-kır: cry loud > lakırdı	from ala (exclamation)?
ἀλγέω (ἄλγος)	aor. subj. ἀλγήσετε, part. ἀλγήσα_ς: feel pain, suffer; met., Od. 12.27.	alıg/alığ	bad
ἄλγος	pain; freq. met., and esp. pl., hardship, troubles, woe; of hunters,	alkın-	to perish, to disappear, to run out, to diminish, to weaken, to disappear	Now it is important to see that Dybo tells: PTurk. *jal-k- to suffer pain, be nauseated, hate
ἀλέη	warm sunshine, Od. 17.23†.	yal-	to burn, to glitter
ἀμαλός	tender, epith. of young animals.	bala	young animal; child
ἀ - μιτρο - χίτωνες(μίτρη, χιτών)	without belt beneath their coat of mail (χιτών), epith. of the Lycians, Il. 16.419†.	ton	dress; thing to wear
με	Acc. of ego (I)	Proto-Türkis: me/be: I		ἄμ·μες: we, bi-r/bi-z: we
“-θεν	Added to nouns to form adverbs of place from which: from; also used, like genitive, with prepositions	ta/tan, te/ten:	from somewhere (suffix for leaving somewhere)	(ayrilma eki)
βάσις	step, stepping; base, pedestal; foundation, basement by Strabo 64 BCE – 24 CE, Strabo, Geography 14.1.14: τρία Μύρωνος ἔργα κολοσσικὰ ἱδρυμένα ἐπὶ μιᾶς βάσεως = of these, three of colossal size, the work of Myron, stood upon one base	bas-: to trample, to press	PTurk. *bAs-tɨrma: penthouse	>bas + terme = a word dealing with wall
ἀνά , by apocope ἄν (ἀν), before labials ἄμ (ἀμ)	above, up, up to	an/anda/anga/ana	that, here, look,
ἀνα-καίω :	kindle	Old Turkic Köy-	to kindle, to burn
ἄνασσα	queen, but only of goddesses	ana	mother	anasi: his/her mother: INA-: to believe, to trust INACHOS? INAK! - masc. ANESSO from INA?
ἄν-αυδος (αὐδή)	speechles (an-suffix is a negation)	aydi/ayti	to speek, to say
ἀνα - χάζομαι	draw back, withdraw; esp. in battle, ‘fall back	kaç-	to flee	kaçma: the deed of fleeing
ἀν-έρχομαι ,	come (or go） up or back, return	er-	to reach
ἄνθ̓ = ἄντα,	adv. and prep., opposite, over against; face to face, squarely	anta	there
ἀντί	prep. w. gen., against	anta	there	ön: face; öng-: to have a direction to somewhere
Ἀξιός	a river in Macedonia, Il. 21.141, Il. 2.849.	ak-	to flow
ἀοιδή	song, minstrelsy	ayit-:	to sing, to tell	other related words: ἀοιδιάω , ἀοίδιμος , ἀοιδός ,
ἀράχνιον (ἀράχνη)	spider's web, pl., Od. 8.280 and Od. 16.35.	PMong. *araɣalǯin spider (паук): WMong. araɣalǯin, aɣalǯin; Kh. ālʒ; Kalm. arālǯn; Dag. āleǯi, agaleǯi.	Turkic ör-: to plait	Örümcek: spider
αράται	to pray	ır	1 prediction, luck 2 omen 3 premonition
ἀργί-ποδος/ἀργί-πος	swift-footed	argı, to run swiftly	arkun: stallion
ἀργής	dazzling white, glistening; epith. of lightning, linen, fat, Il. 8.133, Il. 3.419, Il. 11.818.	yar-	to shine; lugat, candle	>yarıq: shiny
Ἄργος	Argus, the dog of Odysseus, Od. 17.292†.	argı, to run swiftly
ἀργός (root ἀργ)	(1) white shining; goose, Od. 15.161; of oxen, ‘sleek,’ Il. 23.30.— (2) swift; epith. of dogs, with and without πόδας, Α 50, Od. 2.11.	look above the 2 Türkic roots argi and yar
Ἄργοσδε	to Argos	if δε/DE would be a Türkic suffix (de/da)	-de/-da Lokative suffix meaning in/at/on	Agrosde: in Agros/at Agros
ἀργύρεος(ἄργυρος)	(of) silver, silver - mounted; κρητήρ, Il. 23.741; τελαμω<*>ν, Il. 11.38.	shining like silver (look at the Türkic root above: yar
ARGO	The ship of Odysseus	Argo < ARGI ?	swift	look above to know more about Türkic root
ἀρήγω	aid, support, succor	arka	back; helper	<Arka- to help, > arkadas: helper, (bkz Eyuboglu arkadas)
ἀρηγών , όνος(ἀρήγω):	helper, fem., Il. 5.511 and Il. 4.7.	arkan-: to help (from arka: back)	see above
ἀρκέω	root ἀρκ, ἀλκ), fut. ἀρκέσω, aor. ἤρκεσα: keep off (τινί τι), hence protect, help	arka: bak	arkan-: to help	ἄρκιος (root ἀρκ), helping, to be depended upon, certain;
ἅρμα	hariot, esp. the warchariot; very often in pl., and with	araba/arba	Sözcük Türkce mi degil mi tartismasi vardır.
ἄροσις (ἀρόω):	ploughing, arable land.	ar/yar: o split 2 split	ARK/ARIK derived from this root	ἀροτήρ , ῆρος: ploughman; ἄροτος: ploughing, cultivation, pl., Od. 9.122.†; ἄροτρον : plough; ἄρουρα(ἀρόω): cultivated land (pl., fields), ground, the earth;
ἀρωγή (ἀρήγω):	help, aid in battle	argın	tired, weak, exhausted
ἆτος	insatiable.	toy-	to get satiated
ἄττα	a term of endearment used in addressing elders, ‘father,’ ‘uncle.’
ἄττα	a term of endearment used in addressing elders, ‘father,’ ‘uncle.’	PTurk. *Ata / *Ete	1 father 2 uncle 3 ancestor	1e1 aynıdır. Amca ve Baba direk hedef alması da büyük bir belirtidir.
αὐδή	voice, properly the human voice with reference to its pleasing effects;	ayıt-	to sing, to tell	audio’nun kendisi Türkçe mi?
αὐλή	court - enclosure, court, court yard, farm-yard; the αὐλήof a mansion had gate-way, portico, stables, slave-quarters, altar, and rotunda (θόλος); see table III. An αὐλή is attributed to the cabin of Eumaeus, the swine-herd, Od. 14.5, to the tent of Achilles, Il. 24.452, and even to the cave of Polyphēmus, Od. 9.239.	Old Türkic ağıl=stable	i have written a blog about that	Nisanyan notices the startling similarity; Αὐλίς : Aulis, a town in Boeotia, on the Euripus, the rendezvous of the Greeks before sailing for Troy
αὔριον	to-morrow	yarın	1 morning 2 tomorrow 3 next year
αὐτο-κασίγνητος / αὐτο - κασιγνήτη	own-brother/own sister	kasıg	groin, inguinal, pubic
αὐχήν	neck, of men and animals	Proto Türk: yaka: collar	Pturk öyek: part of animal’s skin under the neck or between legs	Beekes: Pre-Greek
αὔω	call aloud, with exertion of the voice, halloo; often with	ay-/ayit-:	to say
Ἀχελώιος = Ἀχελῷος: Achelōus,	river-god	akığlı	that that flows (a river)
ἀχερωίς	white poplar, Il. 13.389	ak kavak	white poplar	ak: white
Ἀχέρων	Acheron, river of the nether world, into which flow Pyriphlegethon and Cocȳtus, Od. 10.513†.	ak-	to flow	akar: that that flows
ἄχρι（ς）	quite, quite close, Il. 4.522, Il. 16.324, Il. 17.599; until, Od. 18.370.	yak-	to come nearer

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Homeric-Akherdos-versus-Turkic-kertme-for-pear

 

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ἄχερδος/akherdos

Vatanı Orta Asya olan eriğin, Homeros'un Odisseia'sında gördüğümüz çeşidi >Yaban eriği

Erik anlamındaki kertme (<kertmek: aşılamak) hala kullanılan bir sözcük. Wiki bile bu konuya dikkat çekmiş:

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Wiki: "According to Beekes, from a substrate root common to Albanian dardhë (“pear”). But this ignores the presence of Crimean Tatar kertme (“pear”), dialectal Turkishkertme (“pear”), Kipchak كرتما / chertme (“pear”), allegedly from the verb which is in Turkish kertmek (“to notch, to indent”) because originally meaning a sort of pear which was grafted, then having the transparent suffix -me (forms things created as the result of verbs), but also Ossetian кӕрдо (kærdo, “pear”), Chechen кхор (qor, “pear”), Ingush кхор (qor, “pear”)."

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Proto-Altay Dilleri'nde var:

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Kafkas Dillerinde de var (yukarıda wiki sayfasına bak) ve Türkçe'den geçme!

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İki çıkarım:

1. Orta Asya kökenli erik Kafkasya üzerinden Anadolu'ya/Trakya'ya Türkler tarafından getiriliyor ve Türkçe adını Yunanca konuşanlara kabul ettiriyor, Homeros bunu olduğu gibi alıyor ve kullanıyor.

2. Ağaç aşılaması Türkler tarafında Ön-Türkçe zamanlarında biliniyor ve kullanılıyor.

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ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

ἄχερδος/akherdos 

 The variety of plum, native to Central Asia, that we see in Homer's Odyssey 

>Kertme (Wild pear) is a word still used. 

(<kertmek: to graft a tree) 

Even Wiki drew attention to this issue: 

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 Wiki: "According to Beekes, from a substrate root common to Albanian dardhë (“pear”). But this ignores the presence of Crimean Tatar kertme (“pear”), dialectal Turkish kertme (“pear”), Kipchak كرتما / chertme (“ pear”), allegedly from the verb which is in Turkish kertmek (“to notch, to indent”) because originally meaning a sort of pear which was grafted, then having the transparent suffix -me (forms things created as the result of verbs) , but also Ossetian кЕрдо (kærdo, “pear”), Chechen кхор (qor, “pear”), Ingush кхор (qor, “pear”).” 

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 Available in Proto-Altaic Languages (see pic above): 

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 Also in Caucasian Languages (see wiki page above) 

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 Two takeaways: 1. Plum, which originates from Central Asia, is brought to Anatolia/Thrace via the Caucasus by the Türks and imposes its Turkish name on Greek speakers. Homer takes it as it is and uses it. 

 2. Tree grafting was known and used by the Turks in Proto-Turkish times.

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Homeric-Odysseus-name-origin-my-proposal

 

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About Odysseus!

wiki says: "The etymology of the name is unknown."

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and adds: "It has also been suggested that the name is of non-Greek origin, possibly not even Indo-European, with an unknown etymology.^[15] Robert S. P. Beekes has suggested a Pre-Greek origin.^[16]"

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His epithet "the man of many devices" 

or "man of many turns" 

could be helpful for its etymology in Turkish!

Let us look at these 2 Türkic words:

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Ud means to follow and conform

(ardından gitmek ve uymak) 

and uz/us means master, craftsman.

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But there is an other suitable word 

for the first part for that name !

>Od means fire in Old Türkic.

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Now we can sum up:

Odysseus' name is a very interesting

name for me! It could be Türkic.

The possibilities are: 

Od-uz-u (-u acc. suffix): The Fire-Master 

or

Ud-us-u: The master everybody follows 

or the master everybody respects (conform)!

>>>> Greeked version: ODUZ-EUS / UDUS-EUS 

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Turkish translation:

Odysseus hakkında yazı!

wiki'de şöyle yazıyor: "İsmin etimolojisi bilinmiyor."

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ve şunu ekliyor: "Ayrıca ismin Yunan kökenli olmadığı, muhtemelen Hint-Avrupa kökenli bile olmadığı ve bilinmeyen bir etimolojiye sahip olduğu öne sürülüyor.[15] Robert S.P. Beekes, Yunan öncesi (Pre-Greek) bir köken öneriyor.[16]"

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Onun lakabları "birçok cihazın adamı" veya "çok yönlü adam"

Türkçe etimolojisi açısından bu ismin ilk kısmı için faydalı olacaktır!

Şimdi şu 2 Türkçe kelimeye bakalım:

UD ve US/UZ

Ud takip etmek ve uymak anlamına gelir

(ardından gidilen ve uyulan)

uz/us ise usta/ zanaatkar anlamına gelir.

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Bu ismin ilk kısmı için uygun başka bir kelime daha var

>Od, Eski Türkçede ateş anlamına gelir.

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Özetlersek:

Odysseus'un adı çok ilginç

bence isim Türkçe olabilir.

Olasılıklar şunlardır:

Od-uzu: Ateş Ustası

veya

Ud-usu: Herkesin takip ettiği usta

ya da herkesin saygı duyduğu (uyulan) usta!

>>> ODUZ-EUS veya UDUS-EUS >>> Odysseus 

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P.S.: Sumerian UTU means sun 

(a relation to Türkic OT: fire?)

Uthuze is the Etruscan version of

Odysseus. (Is Uthuze a younger version, are 

we sure?) That means is there an Etruscan

connection?

Homeric-atta-Turkic-ata-ete

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Yazmasam olmaz! ἄττα/atta

Bu sözcük, 'Homerce' baba ve amca için kullanılan saygı dolu bir sesleniş. Sade baba değil amca da bu sözcükler çağrılıyor (+elders)/yukardaki görseller 1-2

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I can not "not write"!

ἄττα/atta This Homeric word, is a respectful address used for father and uncle. Not only the father but also the uncle are called these words (+elders)/pics above 1-2 Turkish Ata/Ete is also used to address father and uncle. It is present in all Uralic-Altaic languages. (+ancestors)/pic 3 above

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Same / similar?

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Oenomaus-Oinomaos-Oynamaz

Oinomaos / Οἰνόμαος / Oynamaz

Spekülasyon OYNAMAZ

İki tane Οἰνόμαος/Oynomaos var mitolojide:

1. Pelasg yerleşim birimlerinden Peloponnes bölgesi,Pisa yöresi başbuğu

2. Spartakus, Kriksus ve Gannikus (Bu ikisinin adı da Türkce olabilir: KIRK & KANIK) ile III. Köle Savaşı’nda savaşmış eski köle eğitmeni ve komutanı

Aşağıda benim düşüncem:

?<Oyna- Eski Türkçe kök +maz (sıfat fiil eki)

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Let us speculate: OYNAMAZ (=He who doesn't play)

There are two Οἰνόμαος/Oynomaos in mythology:

1. Chief of the Peloponnese region, Pisa region, one of the Pelasgian settlements

2. A Former slave trainer and commander who fought in the III. Slave WarS Spartacus, Krixus and Gannikus.

Could Old Turkish root< Oyun- Old Turkish be the root plus suffix +maz/+mez (adjective verb suffix)

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Oynamak eylemi ve anlamları için yukarıdaki el yazısı notu okuyabilirisiniz. Oyna kökü için > aşağıdaki görsel!

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Bir spekülasyon daha: Yukardaki görselde Oynomaos’un sol elinde tuttuğu şey ne acaba? Sanki bozkır yayına benziyor bence (sanatçı gözüyle?!) Ama tabii ki yanılıyor olabilirim. Bu konuda bilgim çok değil. * Sağ elinde tuttuğu ne acaba?

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One more speculation: I wonder what Oynomaos is holding in his left hand in the image above? I think it looks like a steppe bow (from the artist's perspective?!) But of course I could be wrong. I don't know much about this. * I wonder what he's holding in his right hand?

* Oynamaus için bağlantılar:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oenomaus

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oenomaus_(rebel_slave)

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