Saturday, March 22, 2025

Ancient-Erikepaios-Erikapaios-versus-Turkic-ErikApa

 

Paulys Realencyclopädie der classischen Altertumswissenschaft

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English Translation: 

Erikepaios (Ἠρικεπαῖος and Ἠρικαπαῖος; on the relationship between the two name forms, see Gruppe Jahrb. f. class. Philol. Suppl. XVII 1890, 740, 1), a male-female primordial being of the later Orphic cosmogonies. The best-known version (cf. the so-called Rhapsodic Theogony) presents Chronos (see above) as the first principle, the 'never-aging time,' itself without beginning; upon this, a first dyas arises: Aither and Chaos, which, together with the cosmic egg, form the first triad....

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Mr. Pauly mentions Erikepaios OR Erikapaios as 

"a male-female primordial being of the later Orphic cosmogonies."

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English wiki:

"In Orphic literatureErikepaios (Ancient GreekἨρικεπαῖοςlit.'power'),[citation needed] also spelled Ericepaeus, was a title for the god Phanes, mentioned in Orphic poetry and the associated Dionysian Mysteries. It is a non-Greek name for which no certain interpretation has been found.

Discussion

Scholars have long been perplexed by the name Erikepaios, and naturally, most of them have attempted to derive it from Greek etymology, however this seems questionable linguistically. The name has also been thought to have Hebrew origins because of its resemblance to erekh appayim,[1]: 73  "slow to anger."[2] It has been argued, even in antiquity, that the name Erikepaios was an Oriental import. Thus, John Malalas, the 6th century CE Antiotian historian, derives the name from the language spoken in his region.[1]: 74  The name is first mentioned with certainty in the Gurôb papyrus, a Dionysian Mysteries text of the late 3rd century BCE.[3]"

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English wiki says that the name is non-Greek with no certain etymology and interpretation. It mentions that the meaning of that name is related to "power". 

It doesn't show the other version of that name: Erikapaios.



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Greek Wiki says: 

Ο Ηρικαπαίος ή και Ηρικεπαίος κατά την Ελληνική Μυθολογία και ιδιαίτερα την ορφική Κοσμογονία ήταν ερμαφρόδιτο ον το οποίο και χαρακτηριζόταν κυρίαρχη πρωτόγονη και ζωοδότης δύναμη του κόσμου. Κατά την κοσμογονία δημιουργήθηκε στην αρχή ο Χρόνος και εξ αυτού η δυάδα Αιθήρ και Χάος, τα οποία μετά του κοσμογονικού Ωού (αυγού) παρήγαγαν την πρώτη θεϊκή τριάδα. Στη συνέχεια από τη γονιμοποίηση του Ωού προήλθαν ο Έρως, ο Φάνης (δηλαδή ο θεός του φωτός) και ο Μήτις (ο θεός της σκέψης, της φρόνησης) που αποτέλεσαν έτσι τη δεύτερη θεϊκή τριάδα

Με τη δεύτερη αυτή τριάδα οι Ορφικοί συνένωναν τον Ηρικαπαίο που συνδύαζε απ΄αρχής, κατ΄ αυτούς, τρισυπόστατη φύση, δηλαδή τη ζωή, το φως και τη φρόνηση.

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English translation:

"The Herikapaeus or Herikepaeus according to Greek Mythology and especially the Orphic Cosmogony was a hermaphroditic being who was characterized as the dominant primitive and life-giving force of the world. According to the cosmogony, Time was created in the beginning and from it the dyad Ether and Chaos, which after the cosmogenic Ovum (egg) produced the first divine triad. Then from the fertilization of the Ovum came Eros, Phanes (i.e. the god of light) and Metis (the god of thought, of wisdom) who thus constituted the second divine triad

With this second triad the Orphics united Herikapaeus who combined from the beginning, according to them, a three-substance nature, i.e. life, light and wisdom."

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Important: It gives us the Erikapaios version as the first one!

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My turn now:

Erikapa-ios (Greek suffix +ios is the one and only Greek thing in this name) is a hermaphroditic origin of the life. Hermaphroditic means having both genders. A man and a woman at the same time. It is not unimportant for this issue. 

This name was mentioned in Orphic poetry, that means it is definitely of non-Greek origin. Orpheus was a Thracian bard and was not a Greek fellow. So it is normal that the word is not Greek. The linguists have no clue and no idea what the origin of that name is. (See English wiki above). They were perplexed....

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No wonder because they ignore the Türkish Language!

Now we can begin with a very old Türkish word!

Erik:




Erik means strong, powerful; willpower!

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Second part of that name is Apa and it is the point where the rubber hits the road.

Apa has 2 meaning in Old Türk Language: Mother and Father at the same time.

That explains the hermaphroditism of Erikapa (+ Greek suffix +ios) in a very special way. The Ancient Greeks didn't understand the Türkic word APA, because they asked the meaning and got the answer "father" and at the next day the answer "mother". So they were a little bit confused about the gender of that being. That means Erikapa was a deity (maybe without a gender) from the Türkish cosmogony. Maybe it has a gender but the Greeks didn't find it out.

But, you can say "but, Erikapaios is a Thracian word and it is not Türkish". I have shown already many times that there were Türkish-Speaking among the Thracians. So it is no wonder.

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Conclusion: 

There is a Thracian deity called Erikapa (ios) and there is no explanation about its name / origin. My proposal with a Türkic origin is a very clear one. Erik Apa means "powerful deity", of Turkic cosmogony, most probably a male one because the Türkic word erk (power) is associated generally with men. 

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Uzunbacak Adem


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BONUS:

There is deity in Türkish cosmogony with a similar function and name:






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