Sunday, December 15, 2024

Pre-Greek-akti-versus-Turkic-kidi-meaning shore

 

Pic: Wikipedia

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There is a (Pre-)Greek word: ἀκτή and it means "shore, esp. rocky and jutting parts".



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It could be a Pre-Greek word because there is no clear etymology for that:



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My part:

There is a very old Türkic word "kıdığ" meaning edge, border, seashore, frontier; margin, edging, derived from the verb kıd-, meaning to cut.

See Starostin/Dybo:


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In shape and meaning these 2 words

one in (Pre-)Greek and

one in Türkish 

are compatible with each other.

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If we have an etymology for the Türkic word and no etymology for that Greek one, we could say:

ἀκτή could have derived from the Türkic kıdı.

("a" at the beginning of the word could be an Indo-European "a").


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Saturday, December 7, 2024

homeric-word-pule-pylae-thermopylae-Turkic-bula-bulak


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Homeros sözcüğü πύλη/pule

Anlamı kapı-açılan yer-açıklık/1

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Homeric word πύλη/pule

Meaning gate-opening place-orifice/1




Bu sözcükle ilgili Thermopylae/sıcak (kaynakların) kapı(lar)/2-3

Related to this word Thermopulai/gate of hot springs/2-3 (actually only hot gates)





Yunanca kökeni yok/1

No Greek origin-etymology/1



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Türkçe bula-: su kaynamak

 >bulak: kaynak/4




Termopulai: ılıca


Turkish bula-: to spring (water)

>bulak: water spring/see above pic 4

>Thermo-pylae: hot spring

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Kaynak, su gözüdür, suyun çıktığı yerdir, dünyaya açılan kapısıdır.

Homer veya onu çevireneler küçük bir yanlışlık yapmış olmasınlar?


A water spring is the source of water, the place where it comes out, its gate...

Homer or those who translated his work may have made a small mistake?

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Thermopulai "hot gates" demek, yani sıcak kapı. Yukarıdaki 2. görselde açıklaması “sülfür ılıcalarına işaret ediyor" diyor.

Sonuçta sıcak kaynak=sıcak bulak 

Thermopulai ile sorunsuz örtüşür.

Bence Yunanca pule/(çoğulu) pulai’nın Türkçe bula-/bulag ile ilgisi olması, olmamasından daha olası.


Thermopulai means "hot gates".The explanation in the 2nd image above says that it refers to "sulfur hot springs".

After all, hot spring = hot spring maybe without the word "gate".

"Hot springs" overlaps with Thermopulai without "gates".

I think it is more likely than not that the Greek pule/pulae is related to the Turkish bula->bulag.

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Pre-Greek-akti-versus-Turkic-kidi-meaning shore

  Pic: Wikipedia * There is a (Pre-)Greek word:  ἀκτή  and  it means "s hore , esp. rocky and jutting parts". * It could be a Pre-...