Saturday, November 9, 2024

Strabo-words-with-a-possible-Turkic-etymology-part-II

 


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A list of words that could have a Türkic etymology in Strabo's Geography:

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Strabon'un Coğrafya'sında Türk kökenli olabilecek sözcüklerin listesi:

by Uzunbacak Adem!


Original word

meaning

Türkic word

meaning                      

other info

Brigians 

a Thracian people, some of whom crossed over into Asia and changed their name to Phrygians 

obrık

hole, hollow; deeper layer

page 326, 14a

Ouranopolis 


(acc. to Wiki) means sky-city

orun: 

thron, a higher place

balık: city

Akanthos

a city

akıntı

flowing

ak-: to flow

Characoma

The island of Samothrake lies off it, as well as Imbros, which is not far from it. 


kara: black

kum: sand

there are bazalt rests (bazalt is black) on the shore

Samothrake

an island

otruk

island


Kabeiroi

gods honored on Samothrake (big gods)


kabar-

to get bigger


Korybantians 


were the armed and crested dancers who worshipped the Phrygiangoddess Cybele with drumming and dancing. They are also called the Kurbantes in Phrygia.

koru- : protect

bant-: to add, to tie, 

i have already written a blog about that issue

Pamisos

a river

su

water

page 360

Tyrtaios

a poet 

türt/tört: 4

ay: moon

tar-tay?, Manas Legend tells about a soldier called Törtay

Temenion/Temenos

Toponym/Name

temen

big needle


Proïapsai, iapsai, and ipsesth 


…indicate a type of destruction or damage: "now he is making an attempt, but soon he will oppress [ipsetai] the sons of the Achaians" [Iliad 2.193], "afflict [iapsei] her fair complexion" [Odyssey 2.376], "sent away [protapsen] to Had 

Proto-Turkic: *jAb-

1 bad, coarse, wicked 2 to become bad, weak 3 heavy, difficult, severe 4 tasteless, insipid

yabiz/yavuz: bad, evil; yablak: bad, evil

myrmekes (μύρμηξ)


ant

qumursɣa

ant


Krokyleia

an Island

korku

fear

-lu suffix? meaning with, or el, meaning the place

Othryades 


a commander

otru/otruğ; ata: the father, the chief

island-father

otru/otra/orta: the middle (of the army), the chieftain?

Kynouria 


a toponym

kongur

red-brown, dark-brown

a name for the color of a horse

Orneai 

a toponym

orun

higher place, throne

orman: forest

Kenchreai

a toponym

kenç

young, child

kenç-yer: the fresh place, the new place; er: man, soldier

Akte/Aktike

older versions of the peninsula Attika

ak-: to flow

akıtık: a water (liquid) that was made to flow


Peloponnesos 

peninsula

balapan/balaban

young animal; falcon + su: water;

balaban/balapan: large, dick

Kephissos

river

su: water



Parnassos

mountain

su: water



Mykalessos

A town

su: water



Erginos

tyrann of Orchomenus

ergin

e rank


Eteokles

one of those who reigned at Orchomenos, 


ete/ata: father

oglu: son


Korax 

mountain

KIRAK

end of sth, 

KIR-: to break 

Kirphis

a precipitous mountain 

kirpi

hedgehog


Kirrha

a city near Kirphis

kır: 1 isolated mountain 2 mountain top, mountain ridge 3 steppe, desert, level ground 4 edge



Aitolians

barbaric or semi-barbaric people

Ay: moon, tolu: full

aytolu: full-moon 

Aytolu could easily be a Türk name

Athamanians

A people

ata: father

-man: emphasizing suffix

Ataman: the respectable father; there are other Atamans in the world history like Hetmans, Otaman, the term was the official title of the supreme military commanders of the Cossack armies.

Thermopylai 

["Hot Gates"], because there are hot waters nearby that are honored and sacred to Herakles. 


bulag/bulak

water spring


Kallidromon

a mountain name

kalı-: to rise; to jump up

dur-: to stand

standing high? Look at the Türkish word KALDIRIM. Nisanyan and Stachowski derived it from Greek Kalos Dromos „nice way“. This word could be similar. 

Ormenion Ὀρμένιον

A town name

or

place, dwelling place

page 429

Kyme

a town at shore

kum

sand

there were 2 of them, one in Greece, one in Anatolia

Boos Aule

a cave name, meaning cow stall

boa: bull

ağıl: cattle pen

buğra: male camel, buğu: female camel

Gargasousos


a person name

karga

raven

kargasız: who has not raven; korkusuz: without fear

Alyzeus 


son of Ikarios

alız

weak, undersized

the word has these meanings, too: cunning, sneaky and greedy

Epeiros

Maniland

epe: mother

yer: land

Motherland?, Mother’s land? see Epiros: was a member of the Theban royal family as the daughter of princess Agave and Echion, one of the Spartoi. She was the sister of Pentheus, successor of King Cadmus of Thebes.

Atabyris

a toponym derived from the epithet of Zeus; Atabyris was a cultic epithet of the god Zeus from Greek mythology, under which he was probably worshipped in the form of a bull.[1] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atabyrius

ata: father

bur/buğur

camel stallion; stud male animal

Otos the Kuyllenian

a person name

uduz-/oduz-

to command

kul/köle: servant

Saians/Saii

A Thracian tribe

Say

rocky, stony area

Saians lived on Thassos (Taşoz in Türkish) and gave its name because the island Thassos is rocky. See my blog about them)

Doulichion/Dolicha

an island

dolu: hail; dol-: to get full



Haimon

a male name

ayman

a name

maybe related to ay: moon or there is a verb ayman- meaning to fear.

Oxylos

son of Haimon

OK-: arrow

oksul: like an arrow

or sharp as an arrow

Althaia

a female person who died through fire

al: red

yal-: to burn > alav: flame


Kouretians/Kouretika

a people

kur: belt

Kurtak: a kind of jacket

Kurtak: a male name; OR koru-: to protect

Bakchic (Bakhus)

with martial dances, an uproar, noise, cymbals, drums, and arms, as well as the flute and cries, causing fear through their sacred rites in the manner of religious servants. 

bak-: to watch

BAKSI: shaman

it is accepted that the word BAKSI derived from Chinese 博士, but when was it? maybe so early like the Türks moved to Europe under the name Thracians

Berekyntian

A Thracian tribe

berkin

strong

<berk (Proto-Türkic) : strong

Euhoi Saboi

a religious call

ay-: to round

sab-: so say

dance in a round form and call

Berekyntian 


a kind of flute (Berekyntian a place or a land name, a people’s name originally? From Phrygian?

Birge

whip, bamboo stick

biriki: came together (from a double flutes?)

Phrygian

a great peoples

birig/birigi/birik/biriki

to gather, to join, to become one

„Etymology of Phrygian“

Magadis

an instrument

baglama

an instrument with strings

<bag-: 

Akousilaos the Argive 

a historian

ak-: to flow

+sıl: a suffix, showing similarity

akı-sıl: like a river

Kelmis

one of the Idahoan DACTYLS

kelmiş

s/he who came 

s/he who comes like gelin: bride (she who comes to house of the man). + Kermis and Damnameneus were the first to discover iron in Cyprus

Erineos, Boion, and Kytinion 


Dorian settlements

Erin, Boyın, Kutın

all could be Türkic names

Er: man, yer: land; Boyun: neck ( geographical neck?); Kut: holy (+in: possessive suffix) 10.4.2­8 


Knossos

A settlement on Crete

Kün-özü

Day-source (water source)

-sso: is not a Greek suffix. Kum-özü?or Kün: people?

Kairatos

the old name of Knossos

Kairat

name of a village in Kyrgyzstan, and a male name in Türkic world


Dorylaos

a male name

doru/duru

pure, clean

?durul-: to calm down

Gortyna

a city

Korut/gorut

to let defend < koru-: to keep safe

Homer says "high­walled Gortyna" [Iliad 2.646, altered] ­ but later it lost its walls from the foundations and has remained unwalled for all time. 


***ASIA***





Achaians

Homer says Achaians were Greeks

akay: white moon

akın-: to raid, <ak-: to flow, to proved (of army).

Beekes sproposed that it originated in a Pre-Greekform*Akaywa-. (wiki)

Zygians

a people (half-nomad) who lived NorthEast Black See coast

chigay/chigan

poor


Kerketians

a people

kerki

1 adze, mattock 2 razor

+t: plural suffix

Kolchis

a region in North Caucausia

köl

lake, sea

kölçi: he who has/runs a lake (Kolchians)

Pantikapaion

a Scythian city

kap-: to close

kap: door gate

look at its geo position to understand the word kap- (to close) > Hungarian kapu: gate 

Korokondame (Coracanda)

a village on Caucasia

kara - kant?

Black city?

because of charcoal mines there? Kand is a Sogdian word for city. OR kon-: to settle down

Maioten Μαιῶται

Neigbors of the Scythians as who lived partly on fish and partly from agriculture but were as warlike as their nomadic neighbors

Bay

rich

bayıt-: to make rich

Sindi (Sindoi)

were an ancient Scythian people who primarily lived in western Ciscaucasia. A portion of the Sindi also lived in Central Europe

sındı sındu

scissors


Arrechi (Greek: Ἀρρηχοί

were an ancient tribe of the Maeotae,

arı

bee


Apatouros 

epithet of Aphrodite

apa

mother, elder sister, aunt


Sarapana

strong position on the road that led from Colchis to Iberia, had a fortress

sarp

difficult (sarp is still being used for the places hard to climb)


Page 482: the linen industry is often talked about, for it was exponed to foreign places, and some rely on this who wish to show a kinship between the Kolchians and Egyptians. 





a Hyksos relation? Hyksos who came from the north….

Phtheirophagians ["Lice Eaters"]

a people, who have taken their name because of their squalor and filth 


bit

louse

ye: to eat : Bit-yeyir?; Chuvash: piyta: bit

Moschikian 


A mountain name/Caucasian

boşuk

angry, furious

Yunus emre: buşu: anger

Chamaikoitians 

a people; "Those Who Sleep on the Ground" 


kamağ

all, all together, whole


Troglodytes 


["Cave Dwellers"] here, who live in holes because of the cold, and among them there is a lack of barley 


tarıġ 

all kinds of crops, grains

<tarı- “to sow crops, to scatter seeds”

Abeakos


king of the Sirakians at the time that Pharnakes [II] held the Bosporos, sent 20,000 horsemen 

aba aka

elder father (the oldest in community)

Yakutia abgab: the oldest in the tribe, great uncle, father's elder brother

Achardaios

a river in Caucasian region

akar-

that that flows


Anariakians / Aniarakians 

a people

yarak

weapon

yara-: to be useful

Ouitians (Ouitioi)

a people

uy-

to be allied

uyut: allies (+t suffix makes plural); uj-: to be able, capable (Orkh/Uygh u-)

Kadousians 


a people

kadış

leather belt

kadu-: 1 to stick in 2 sting 3 to sew

Oxos and Ochos 


The rivers flowing through Hyrkania 

Ochos: Ögüz (Spring)

Oxos: Aksu (white water)


Omanos 

a deity 

oman/uman

Chuvash word for worm (snake?)


Anadates

a deity 

ana

mother


Sagaris

a weapon Massagetians use

çakar

a posssible word that means that that clashes

<çak-: to clash, -Vr the suffix making verbs to nouns

Seleukos Kallinikos

was a ruler of the Hellenistic Seleucid Empire, who reigned from 246 BC to 225 BC

kalın

thick, stiff


Attasians

a people belonging to Massagetians

ata: father

ataç: a boy resembling his father 

Ata oglı ataç togar - DLT

Apassiakians

a people

apası ak

lit. „they whose father is white„

ak: (maybe) noble; IE linguists propose APA-SAKA (WATER SAKA) SIAKIA = SAKA?

Tapyrians

a nomadic people

tapır-

to jump

OR probably tap-: to serve, to worship

Derbikians

a people

der-bek

der-: “to gather, to bring together”, beg: chieftain

ter: sweat

Ortospana

three principal roads leading through Bactriana met at this place;

orta/ortu

middle

ban-: to tie. Like in Samotrake, Orthokorybantians (yukarıdaki 2 sözcük de var bunda), Orthagoria, Romalı oymak Ortalus adlarında bu 'orta' bulunur.

Zariaspa

a city in Bactria

sarı: yellow, golden

sıp: 2-year-old colt; donkey colt

wiki: An earlier name for Balkh or a term for part of the city was Zariaspa (Ancient Greek: Ζαρίασπα), which may derive from the important Zoroastrian fire temple Azar-i-Asp or from a Median name *Ζaryāspa- meaning "having gold-coloured horses“. AND NOW there is a horse breed called Akal-Teke and it is a Türkish breed, it has golden hair

Darapsa

a city in Bactria

dar: narrow; raft

ap-: to spring

su: water

Kariatai

a city in Bactria, Alexander razed it


kar: snow

tai: mountain

See the name of the Bactrian city Belh/Balch: Altaic words like *bẹ̄l(k), Mongolian: *belkeɣü, Tungus-Manchu: *belge(geographical form)

Imaion

a Mountain that adjoins the Indian Sea 


UMAY

Goddess of Birth


Tamaron

A river in Asia

tamar

vein


Siginni

A Median? tribe that settled in Hungary 8th C BC.

SIGIN/SIGUN

deer, male maral 2 large bovine


Kyrtians

a tribe; According to Garnik Asatrian, Cyrtians were a collection of indigenous, non-Iranian tribes who only shared a nomadic lifestyle.[4]

ogurt-? many ogurs (many tribes?)

Gurt? wolf

Kurut? cheese;]

Basoropaida 


a region probably east of Lake Van

Basarapa

a Turkish ruler the of the Cuman dynasty Basarab

Basar: ruler, apa: father

Kalachene

a region near Nimrod

kala-

to heap up, pile up

ka-: to stay

Temple of Baris


Baris

Leopard


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See part I:

Ilk 100 sözcük:

Part I

Part III


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