Wilhelm Tomaschek - Die Alten Thraker |
Kendisi de (olası) Trak soylu Doğu Roma İmparatoru Büyük Jüstinyen zamanında (527-565) Trak soylu askerlere rastlanıyor.
Birinin adı Κουτίλας(Kutilas, Gudila).Akkadian Sumerian Etruscan Turukku ProtoTurkic Proto Turkic Scythian Sarmatian Thracian PreGreek Pre Greek Carian Sidetic Luwian Lycian Lydian Asianic Kurmali Karoshthi Indus Script Paulys RE Indo European IndoEuropean IndoGerman Etymology Kelime Köken Kelimeköken Turkish Türk Proto Altaic Uralic No Main Stream Ideas No MainsStream Something New No Racism Against EuroCentrism No Euro Centrism! I'm looking at the things through the Turkic window! * FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER @boshluff @theUzunbacak
Wilhelm Tomaschek - Die Alten Thraker |
Kendisi de (olası) Trak soylu Doğu Roma İmparatoru Büyük Jüstinyen zamanında (527-565) Trak soylu askerlere rastlanıyor.
Birinin adı Κουτίλας(Kutilas, Gudila).
Approximate location of the Dolonki (by wiki) |
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Dolonci or Dolonki (Greek: Δόλογκοι) is the name of a Thracian tribe in Thracian Chersonese. They are mentioned by Herodotus.[1]
German Dolongae
we read their names in the book of Thomaschek "die alten Thraker", too.
They have many women and many children.
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There we can match this name with many Turkic words/verbs like
tol-/dol-: to get full > (Tolun-: a participle of dol-) > TOLUN-AY= Full moon
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There is a Turkic deity called Tolun/Dolun Han.
He enables animals and crops to be productive and reproduce. It gives abundance to the earth. It is likely to be associated with the full moon. Because the full moon is a symbol of abundance, completeness and beauty. Beautiful girls are always compared to the full moon in fairy tales and folk songs.
And there is even "The Tulunids (Arabic: الطولونيون), were a Mamluk dynasty of Turkic origin[1] who were the first independent dynasty to rule Egypt, as well as much of Syria, since the Ptolemaic dynasty.[2]"
Their Turkic name is Tolunogullari,
means sons of Tolun".
it could be related to Turkic döl (sperm)
from PTurk. *döl 1 progeny, breed 2 new-born animals, because the Dolongae had many women and many children.
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There are some other tribes/toponomy/hydronomy whose names could
be derived from Turkic words like:
TIMACES: TIMAK: a kind of leather headgear
COTINI: Kut
UTENSES: ODUN/UTIN (wood)
ARTACIA: ARTIK (the rests) - There's even a dynasty called ARTUK in der Turkish history.
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Enough parallels?
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Uzunbacak Adem
Gr. μέλι ; PIE *melit-
and now my turn:
Look at Proto-Turkic "bal" meaning honey. Proto-Altaic *male: plant oil
Same?
or Similar?
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Uzunbacak Adem
Now look at:
Proto-Turkic: *adak Altaic etymology: Altaic etymology Meaning: foot Russian meaning: нога Old Turkic: adaq (Orkh., OUygh.) Karakhanid: aδaq (MK) Source: https://Source: starlingdb.org
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Uzunbacak Adem
Trakyaya geldik, Payonyalılara uğramadan olmaz.
Bu halk hakkında fazla bilgimiz yok. Ama suya değdiğine alev alan 'Tanrivoc' adında taşları (veya odunları) varmış.wiki |
Yan, taraf, yön demek.
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Now let me give you another nice parallel between Indio European and Proto Turkic:
English oblong
It means that width and length are not same, it is not square.
>(upright) rectangular
(Root Latin)/2
Do you know the Old Turkish bulung?
Let us look at a sentence from Orkhon inscriptions:
Tört bulung kop yağı ermiş
>Four sides are always enemies!
Bulung means side, direction.
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Source: Tört Bulung |
Uzunbacak Adem
Ancak şurada kimin kim olduğu bellidir:
Turcus/Turkos Türk olmayıp ne olacaktır?
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İngilizce wiki şöyle der: “Before the arrival of Dardanus, the land that would eventually be called Dardania (and later still the Troad) was known as Teucria and the inhabitants as Teucrians, after Turkos.” ‘After Turkos’!? Turkos nedir, kimdir belirsizdir. Açıklama yapmaz, başka söz etmez. Çok önemli olabilecek bu adı, kime veya neye ait olduğunu sır gibi saklar.
Benim çıkarımım: Priam oğluna Tuğrul adını verdi, oğlu Tuğrul kendi oğluna Türk adını verdi. Bu kadar.
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English version:
The name of the prince Troilus, son of the Trojan chief Priam, is compatible with Turul/Tuğrul, which is not foreign to us at all. (Turul/Tuğrul is a holy totemic bird of the Turks and Hungarians (Onogurs).
It is a Ancient Roman gentes:
read more: Roman gens Turullius
coincidence?
Do you know what his son's name is?
Turkos
According to: Turcus/Turkos Source
'Turcus was a son of Troilus, who was a son of King Priam. At his wish his people were called Turks, after him. Some say their place of origin is in the neighborhood of Scythia.'
There seems to be no other source where you can read the names of the two of them on www.
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The English wiki says: "Before Dardanus' arrival, the land that would eventually be called Dardania (and later still the Troad) was Teucria, and its inhabitants were known as Teucrians after Turkos."
'After the Turkos'!?
What or who is Turkos. Wiki doesn't explain, he doesn't say anything else. He keeps this name, which can be very important, as a secret to whom or what it belongs to.
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Conclusion: Priamos gave his son the name Troilus (Tuğrul) and he gave hşs son the name Turkos (Türk). Crystal clear.
Uzunbacak Adem
***Not my find: I saw it in www***
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Traklar arasında Türkçe konuşmuş olanlar olmalı!
Βατράχιον/BatrakhionWilhelm Tomaschek kitabında
*Wilhelm Tomaschek - die alten Thraker - Susagus* |
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Abia / Ἀβία is compatible with 2 Turkic words:
Aba for mother
and
Abučka for foster-mother
Source:
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Below the Proto-Turkic words.
UzunbacakAdem
* Pliny writes about some tribal names near Lake Mieotis. The interesting ones for me are: Sauromatæ Gynæcocratumeni (the husbands of the ...