Sunday, April 30, 2023

Thracian-soldier-Koutilas-versus-Turkic-Kutlu-Kutil

 

Wilhelm Tomaschek - Die Alten Thraker


Kendisi de (olası) Trak soylu Doğu Roma İmparatoru Büyük Jüstinyen zamanında (527-565) Trak soylu askerlere rastlanıyor.

Birinin adı Κουτίλας(Kutilas, Gudila).
Şimdi bu adda Öztürkçe Kutlu/Kutlı/Kutil'i görmeyelim mi? Belki bir başbuğ. Bu ad bir başbuğa yakışır.
Özbekçe'de hala var. 

Bu benzerlik Trak Boyu'nda Türk asıllıların olduğunu gösterir. Nokta!

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ENGLISH VERSION:

Thracian origined soldiers are encountered during the reign of the Eastern Roman Emperor Justinian the Great (527-565), himself (possibly) Thracian noble.

One of them had the name Κουτίλας(Kutilas, Gudila).

Shouldn't we see Turkish Kutlu/Kutlı/Kutil under this name? Maybe a chieftain (when his name was noticed, most probably). This name befits a chief.

It still exists in Uzbek.

Look at the pics above!

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Again a proof for the existence of Turkic clans among the Thracian.

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Saturday, April 29, 2023

Dolonci-Dolongae-versus-Turkic-Tolun-Dol

 

Approximate location of the Dolonki (by wiki)


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Dolonci or Dolonki (GreekΔόλογκοι) is the name of a Thracian tribe in Thracian Chersonese. They are mentioned by Herodotus.[1]


German Dolongae 



we read their names in the book of Thomaschek "die alten Thraker", too.

They have many women and many children. 

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There we can match this name with many Turkic words/verbs like

tol-/dol-: to get full > (Tolun-: a participle of dol-) >  TOLUN-AY= Full moon

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There is a Turkic deity called Tolun/Dolun Han. 

He enables animals and crops to be productive and reproduce. It gives abundance to the earth. It is likely to be associated with the full moon. Because the full moon is a symbol of abundance, completeness and beauty. Beautiful girls are always compared to the full moon in fairy tales and folk songs.


And there is even "The Tulunids (Arabicالطولونيون), were a Mamluk dynasty of Turkic origin[1] who were the first independent dynasty to rule Egypt, as well as much of Syria, since the Ptolemaic dynasty.[2]"


Their Turkic name is Tolunogullari, 

means  sons of Tolun".


it could be related to Turkic döl (sperm)

from PTurk. *döl 1 progeny, breed 2 new-born animals, because the Dolongae had many women and many children. 

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There are some other tribes/toponomy/hydronomy whose names could

be derived from Turkic words like:


TIMACES: TIMAK: a kind of leather headgear

COTINI: Kut 

UTENSES: ODUN/UTIN (wood)

ARTACIA: ARTIK (the rests) - There's even a dynasty called ARTUK in der Turkish history. 


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Enough parallels?


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Hittite-militt-malitt-for-honey-Turkic-bal

 


Gr. μέλι ; PIE *melit-


and now my turn:


Look at Proto-Turkic "bal" meaning honey. Proto-Altaic *male: plant oil


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Same?

or Similar?


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Hittite-ATTA-Turkic-ATA

ATA-ATTA-TURKIC versus HITTITE



My turn:



ATA-ATTA-TURKIC versus HITTITE


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Hittite-Cuneiform-pat-leg-versus-Turkic-adak

 




Now look at:




Proto-Turkic: *adak Altaic etymology: Altaic etymology Meaning: foot Russian meaning: нога Old Turkic: adaq (Orkh., OUygh.) Karakhanid: aδaq (MK) Source: starlingdb.org


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Paionian-Tanrivoc-Turkic-Tanri

 



Trakyaya geldik, Payonyalılara uğramadan olmaz.

Bu halk hakkında fazla bilgimiz yok. Ama suya değdiğine alev alan 'Tanrivoc' adında taşları (veya odunları) varmış.
Tanrı tamam dersek, buğu olur mu ikinci yarısı sözcüğün, yoksa 'büyü'lü taş mı, ya da bük (ağaç) mı uyar?

wiki




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We came to Thrace, and let us stay a while by the Paionians. 

We don't know much about these people. 

But they have stones (or wood) called 'Tanrivoc' that catch fire when they touch the water. 

 If we say TANRI (God or Heavens in Old Turkic) is Turkic!

the second part of the word could be:

BUGU (mist), 
BÜGÜ (Magic) > 'magic' stone
or BÜK (tree)

???

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ENGLISH-OBLONG-TURKIC-BULUNG




Şimdi bir güzel paralellik daha vereyim: İngilizce oblong Bi köşesi bi köşesine uymayan, kare olmayan demek >(dik)dörtgen (Kökü Latince) Eski Türkçe bulung’u bilir misiniz? Orhun Yazıtları:
Tört bulung kop yağı ermiş >Dört yan hep düşman imiş!  

Yan, taraf, yön demek. 


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Now let me give you another nice parallel between Indio European and Proto Turkic:


English oblong


It means that width and length are not same, it is not square.

>(upright) rectangular

(Root Latin)/2


Do you know the Old Turkish bulung?


Let us look at a sentence from Orkhon inscriptions:


Tört bulung kop yağı ermiş

>Four sides are always enemies!

 

Bulung means side, direction.


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Source: Tört Bulung


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kumis-drinking-nations-kimiz-mare-milk



Traklara gelmişken şu bilgileri paylaşayım unutmadan: Kımız (Mare milk) içen uluslar: Hunlar İskitler Sarmatlar Traklar Usunlar (Wusun) Türkler Moğollar * 2. bilgi: Trakların bir başbuğunun adı Harpalycys. Bu ad Eski Türkçe Arpağ (sihir, büyü) ile uyumludur/1-2 > Arpalığ (Büyülü)

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While I'm on the issue "Thrace", let me share the following information before I forget: 

 Nations that drink kumiss (Mare milk): 

 Huns
 Scythians 
 Sarmatians 
 Thracs 
 Usun (Wusun)
 Turks 
 Mongols 

2. info: The name of a chief of the Thracians is Harpalycys. 
This name is compatible with Old Turkish Arpag (magic)
 
> Arpalık (magical) 

PICS:



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Sunday, April 23, 2023

Trojan-Troilus-Turkos-both-Turkic-names


Truva başbuğu Priam'ın oğlu prens Troilus'un adı bizim için hiç de yabancı olmayan Turul/Tuğrul ile uyumludur.



Turul/Tuğrul Antik Roma'da da adı geçen bir oymak:

okuyun: Turullius Gens

Rastlantı mı? Oğlunun adı ne bilir misiniz? Turkos. İkisinin adını bir yerde okuyacağınız kaynak yok gibi www'de.

Ancak şurada kimin kim olduğu bellidir:


Turkos - Troilus - Priam



'Turcus was a son of Troilus, who was a son of King Priam. At his wish his people were called Turks, after him. Some say their place of origin is in the neighborhood of Scythia.'

Turcus/Turkos Türk olmayıp ne olacaktır?

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İngilizce wiki şöyle der: “Before the arrival of Dardanus, the land that would eventually be called Dardania (and later still the Troad) was known as Teucria and the inhabitants as Teucrians, after Turkos.” ‘After Turkos’!? Turkos nedir, kimdir belirsizdir. Açıklama yapmaz, başka söz etmez. Çok önemli olabilecek bu adı, kime veya neye ait olduğunu sır gibi saklar.


Benim çıkarımım: Priam oğluna Tuğrul adını verdi, oğlu Tuğrul kendi oğluna Türk adını verdi. Bu kadar.

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English version:


The name of the prince Troilus, son of the Trojan chief Priam, is compatible with Turul/Tuğrul, which is not foreign to us at all. (Turul/Tuğrul is a holy totemic bird of the Turks and Hungarians (Onogurs).





It is a Ancient Roman gentes:

read more: Roman gens Turullius

coincidence? 


 Do you know what his son's name is? 


Turkos


According to: Turcus/Turkos Source


'Turcus was a son of Troilus, who was a son of King Priam. At his wish his people were called Turks, after him. Some say their place of origin is in the neighborhood of Scythia.'





  There seems to be no other source where you can read the names of the two of them on www. 


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 The English wiki says: "Before Dardanus' arrival, the land that would eventually be called Dardania (and later still the Troad) was Teucria, and its inhabitants were known as Teucrians after Turkos." 


 'After the Turkos'!? 


 What or who is Turkos. Wiki doesn't explain, he doesn't say anything else. He keeps this name, which can be very important, as a secret to whom or what it belongs to.


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Conclusion: Priamos gave his son the name Troilus (Tuğrul) and he gave hşs son the name Turkos (Türk). Crystal clear.


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Saturday, April 22, 2023

Sumerian-Bulug-Akkadian-Pilukku-Turkic-Boluk




Sümerce kelime BULUG 
Akadca PULUKKU 

 Her ikisi de Sınır anlamına gelir. (Türkçesi SINIR) 
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 Proto-Türkçe fiil BÖL- ile ilgili olabilir: bölmek, ayırmak > Bölük (ayrılmış) 




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 Bence bu oldukça mümkün. 

 ***Benim bulgum değil: www***'de gördüm

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ENGLISH VERSION:


Sumerian word BULUG Akkadian PULUKKU Both mean Boundary. (Türkçe SINIR) *
It could have to do with the Proto-Turkic verb BÖL-: to divide, to seperate 
> Bölük (separated) * I think this is quite possible.  

***Not my find: I saw it in www*** 


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Batrakhion-a-Thracian-plant-Turkic-plant-Pitrak


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Traklar arasında Türkçe konuşmuş olanlar olmalı!

Βατράχιον/Batrakhion
Trak hakkında yazılan her eserde adı geçen Tomaschek'in 'Dia Alten Thraker' betiğinin 'Trakların çiçekleri' bölümünde geçen bir çiçek adı.


* Okuduğumda hemen tüylü dallı pıtrak aklıma geldi. Eski Türkçe
buturgak
Elime aldım bu sabah betiği ve göz gezdirdim yalnızca. 
İlk gördüğüm sözcük bu oldu. Aklıma ilkin batrak (Esi Türkçe bayrak) geldi ama bölümün başına bakınca PITRAK'a döndüm. Nişanyan'da da var bu Öz-Türkçe sözcük


* Bence çok güzel bir esinti eski zamandan, Trakya'dan!

Tomaschek'e göre bu bitkinin adı düğünçiçeği (Almancası Ranunkeln).

* Bana göre de tüylü dalları buna Traklarca Pıtrak denmesine yol açmış olabilir. Ata ite insana yapışıp sinir eden Pıtrağı düşünüp bu çiçeğe bu adı vermiş olmalılar Traklar. Yorumum budur.

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Yunanca kurbağa demek olan βάτραχος / bátrakhos'tan getirir dilciler adını. Ben ilgi ve ilişki kuramadım ikisi arasında:


Sözcüğün kökeni denen (kurbağa) Batrakhos'un da köken kesin değil! -Unknown third- (wiktionary).




Batrakhos için kaynak: Bathrakos (Source)

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English version by google Translate:

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There must be those who spoke Turkish among the Thracians!


Βατράχιον/Batrakhion

Name of a flower mentioned in every work written about Thrace in the 'Flowers of Thraker' section of Tomaschek's 'Dia Alten Thraker' script/1
There must be those who spoke Turkish among the Thracians!


Βατράχιον/Batrakhion

A flower name in the 'Flowers of the Thracians' section of Tomaschek's 'Dia Alten Thraker' script, which is mentioned in every work written about Thrace.

I think it's a very nice breeze from the old times, from Thrace!

According to Tomaschek, the name of this plant is buttercup (Ranunkeln in German).

In my opinion, its hairy branches may have caused it to be called the Thracian "Pıtrak". Thracians must have given this name to this flower after thinking of Turkic Pıtrak, which clings to a horse a dog and makes people angry.

This is my comment.

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Linguists get its name from βάτραχος / bátrakhos, which means frog in Greek. I could not establish any relationship between the two:

The origin of the word (frog) Batrakhos is also uncertain:
-Unknown third- (wiktionary).

For the pics see above:

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Susagus-Sarmatian-Dacian-Chieftain-Turkic-Susak



Wilhelm Tomaschek kitabında




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SUSAGUS 

adlı bir Sarmat başbuğundan söz eder. 

*Wilhelm Tomaschek - die alten Thraker - Susagus*

SUSAG-US adı için Türkçe 3 önerim var: SUSAK SUSKA (Çuçka, çoçka) ÇUÇAK 


Ne dersiniz? Açıklama ilk görselde

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English version:

Wilhelm Tomaschek mentions a Sarmatian chieftain named SUSAGUS. I couldn't find anything about its etymology.

 I have 3 suggestions in Turkish for the name SUSAG-US: 

SUSAK (Su: water > Susak: Water vessel)

SUSKA (Chuchka, chochka: Boar, Pig) 

Çuçak: Dwarf


What do you think?

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Saturday, April 15, 2023

Abia-Amme-des-Glenos-or-Hyllus-versus-Turkic-Abicka-Aba

 


Foster-mother or nurse of Herakles son was called Abia.


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Abia / Ἀβία is compatible with 2 Turkic words:

Aba for mother

and

Abučka for foster-mother


Source: 

Ausführliches Lexikon der griechischen und römischen Mythologie - by Roscher

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Below the Proto-Turkic words.



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pliny-mieotis-region-and-its-nations

  * Pliny writes about some tribal names near Lake Mieotis. The interesting ones for me are: Sauromatæ Gynæcocratumeni (the husbands of the ...