Monday, December 26, 2022

two-Sarmatian-kings-Babai-Beuca-Turkic-Baba-Buka

 


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There are two Sarmatian kings called Beuca and Babai


Babai: Baba is the word for Grandfather in Old Turkic

Beuca: Buka is the bull.





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Scythian-Roman-Monk-Dionysus-Exiguus-Turkic-Eksik

 

Dionysos Exiguus a Scythian by birth and a Roman monk

İlginç bir kişilik: Dionysos Exiguus Şu an kullandığımız takvimi 6.yy'da bulan İskit kökenli Romalı keşiş. Exiguus Latince az, biraz, yetersiz demek. Buraya kadar tamam. Ama adı olan Exiguus Latince'den değil de, İskitçe kaldıysa ve Eksik/Eksük'ten (tamamlanmaya muhtaç) geliyorsa?

Almanca Wiki adını Denys olarak veriyor, bu da çok ilginç:




Deniz?

Olası mı?

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English version:

Dionysus Exiguus Roman monk of Scythian origin who invented the calendar we use in the 6th C. Exiguus means little/scanty in Latin.



Ok so far. But what if his name, Exiguus, was always Scythian and remained Scythian and not Latin, and comes from Turkic Eksik/Eksük (in need of completion)?


German wiki says: The old version of his name is: Denys 


Deniz is the word for "sea" and stilling used as a male name. Interesting, too... Possible?


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Sunday, December 25, 2022

Scythian-evil-women-Bitiae-Turkic-bet-bit

 


Pauly, çok kötü bakan İskit kadınları Bitiae hakkında yazıyor. Phylarchus, aynı özelliğe sahip olan Thibier'den bahseder. Gözlerinde 2 gözbebeği olan kadınlardır.


Pauly, etimoloji girişimleriyle devam ediyor:

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Pauly writes about Bitiae, Scythian women who look very evil. Phylarchos tells about Thibier who have the same feature. They are women with 2 pupils in their eyes. 

Pauly continues with the attempts for its etymology: 


Der ki: İsmin nasıl açıklanacağı bilinmiyor; Neumann (Die Hellenen im Skythenlande I 267f.) ile Moğolca sözde bir kelime budä = kötü iblis düşünmek ve Bitiae'deki Moğolların kadın şamanlarını tanımak pek mümkün değil.


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He says: How the name is to be explained is unknown; One can hardly think of an alleged Mongolian word büdä = evil demon with Neumann (Die Hellenen im Skythenlande I 267f.) and recognize the female shamans of the Mongols in the Bitiae.


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Gidilen yol yanlış değil. Asya doğru yöndür bu durumda. Yüz anlamına gelen Proto-Türkçe BET/BIT kelimesini alabiliriz.

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The direction is not wrong. Asian langs are the right ones in this case, too. Well, we can take the ProtoTurkic word BET/BIT, meaning face.


Bu Proto Türkçe/Modern Türkçe kelime yüz anlamına gelir ve Japonca mi- görmek ile bir yerde buluşur.
O kadar uzağa gitmemize gerek yok çünkü yüz aslında bakış demektir.

Bu özel türdeki kadınları - BITIAE - TIBIER (metatezli hali) gibi Türkçe BIT/BET kelimesiyle açıklayabiliriz belki.

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This Proto Turkic / Modern Turkish word means face and meets somewhere with Japanese mi- to see. 

We don't have to go that far, because a face means actually the look. 

We can maybe explain these special kind of women - BITIAE - with the Turkic word BIT/BET, like TIBIER (metathesis).


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Scythian-Geloni-Turkic-Yilan


Echidna - A half snake - half woman 

Bunu ilk yazan ben değilim.

Sırası gelmişken: Pauly Geloni/Heloni adında, 'yarı' Helence 'yarı' İskitçe konuşan bir Helen budunundan bahseder. 
Başkentleri GELONus adını, 'yarı' insan 'yarı' YILAN anne Ehidna ve Herkül'den olma GELONus'tan alır. GELON/YILAN örtüşebilir mi acaba?




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ENGLISH VERSION

I'm not the first to post this!
Only by the way. Pauly speaks of a Hellenic tribe named Geloni/Heloni, speaking HALF Hellenic HALF Scythian living in the lands of Buduni. Their capital, GELONus, derives its name from GELONus, who is descended from the HALF human, HALF snake mother Echidna and Hercules. Gelon~Yılan(🇹🇷snake)?
Compatible?
Possible?

see pics above!
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Saturday, December 24, 2022

Congrae-tribe-in-Scythian-lands-Turkic-Kongur



Paulys Realencyclopädie der classischen Altertumswissenschaft-Congrae-Scythian





Pauly'ye devam.

Congrae adında İskit elinde oturan bir boy var. (Reitae boyuyla beraber oturuyorlar). / görsel 1 (yukarda)

Kongur Eski Türkçe kara/kahverengi demek (At donu olarak uygun) / görsel 2


Old Turkic KONGUR versus Scythian tribe CONGRAE

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Pauly bile itiraf ediyor ki 'Reitae Hun-Türkçesi ile açıklanamaz ama Congrae'nın bu dilde açıklanması olasıdır'/3

Diyor ki: "die Reitae lassen sich aus hunno-türkischen Sprachmitteln unmöglich deuten, eher ginge dies an mit Congrae".
>"Reitae'yi Hun-Türk dili anlamından yorumlamak mümkün değildir, bu öneri daha çok Congrae'ye uygundur".

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ENGLISH VERSION


There is a tribe named Congrae who lives in the province of Scythia. (They are living together with the Reitae tribe)/image 1 (above) MY TURN: Kongur means black/brown in Old Turkish (as the color of their horses)/2

Even Pauly admits that 'Reitae cannot be explained in Hun-Turkish, but it is possible that Congrae can be explained in this language'/3 Original text: "die Reitae lassen sich aus hunno-türkischen Sprachmitteln unmöglich deuten, eher ginge dies an mit Congrae".

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GERMAN VERSION

Es gibt einen Stamm namens Congrae, der in der Provinz Skythen lebt. (Sie sitzen zusammen mit dem Reitae-Stamm)/Bild 1 (oben)
ICH BIN DRAN: Kongur bedeutet auf alttürkisch schwarz/braun (als Farbe der Pferde, mit denen Congrae geritten sind)/2

Sogar gibt Pauly zu, dass der Name mit Türkischem erklärt werden kann:

"die Reitae lassen sich aus hunno-türkischen Sprachmitteln unmöglich deuten, eher ginge dies an mit Congrae".



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Scythian-or-Sarmatian-Tribe-Agaroi-Turkic-AGU

 




Pauly'de Iskit veya Sarmat boyu var, adı Agar-oi (-oi Yunanca çoğul eki)

Bunlar yılan ZEHİRİ ile yaraları iyileştirebilen bir ulus.
Şimdi ben Eski Türkçe ZEHİR anlamındaki AGU/AĞI ile ilgilendirirsem yanlış olur mu?/2



* Ya da Çuvaşça köpek demek plan AGAR?/3



Macar tazısı AGAR/4





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ENGLISH VERSION

Pauly has a Scythian or Sarmatian tribe, his name is Agar-oi (-oi Greek plural suffix).

 These are a nation that can heal wounds with snake venom/1 

Now, would it be wrong if I relate it to AGU/AGI, meaning Old Turkish POISON?/2 

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Hungarian hound AGAR/4

(ALL PICS ABOVE)

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GERMAN VERSION

Pauly zeigt einen skythischen oder sarmatischen Stamm an, sein Name ist Agar-oi (-oi Greek plural suffix)


Dies ist eine Nation, die Wunden mit Schlangengift heilen kann/1

Nun, wäre es falsch, wenn ich es auf AGU/AGI beziehe, was alttürkisch POISON bedeutet?/2

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Oder Chuvash, um Hund zu sagen, Plan AGAR?/3

See Ungarischer Jagdhund AGAR/4

(Alle Bilder oben)

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Scythian-river-Akesinos-Turkic-Aksin

 




Akesinos! A river in Scythia. 
A name that we explain with the Turkic root AK-, meaning to flow > Example: Akarsu: flowing water. 
Akesinos could be originally AKSIN meaning "let it flow".

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Turkish Version

Akesinos! İskit elinde bir akarsu.
Türkçe kök AK- ile açıkladığımız bir isim > Örnek: Akarsu: 
Akesinos aslen AKSIN olabilir.

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German Version:
Akesinos! Ein Fluss in Skythen.
Ein Name, den wir mit der türkischen Wurzel AK- erklären, was "fließen" bedeutet > Beispiel: Akarsu: fließendes Wasser.

Akesinos könnte ursprünglich AKSIN sein und bedeutet "lass es fließen".


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Sunday, December 18, 2022

2-Scythian-initial-tribes-Paloi-and-Napai




Şimdi şöyle:

Zeus'tan ve yarı yılan kadından olma Scythes'in de 2 çocuğu oluyor. Adları Palus ve Napes. Bunlar İskit ülke sınırlarını genişletiyorlar, filan/1-2





Peki bu boyların adları

Palus> Bala (çocuk) ve Napes> Ana-apa (yani çocuğun ablası) olamaz mı?/3-4-5







Böyle olursa anlatı bozulur mu?

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Pauly de durumu sezmiş gibi. Diyor ki: Bu iki ad belki de iki boyun adı değil de, idari ve hiyerarşik durum bildiren sözcüklerdi. Herodot zamanında artık güncel değillerdi.



O zamanki İskit boylarına Buduni diyenler, Türkçe çocuk/abla sözcüklerini de boy adı sanmış olabilirler. Bence çok olasıdır.



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Conceived from Zeus and a half-snake woman, Scythes also has 2 children.
Their names are Palus and Napes. 

They are expanding the borders of the Scythian country, blah blah /1-2 

Well the names of these clans/tribes could derive from

Palus < Bala (Turkic child) 
and 
Napes< be Turkic Ana-apa (i.e. the child's older sister)?/3-4-5  

If so, will the narrative be spoiled? No.

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Pauly seems to have sensed the situation, too.

 He says: "These two names were perhaps not the names of two tribes, but words denoting administrative and hierarchical status. 
They were no longer current at the time of Herodotus". 

 Those who called the Scythian tribes Buduni at that time may have mistook the Turkish words child (BALA) /sister (ANA-APA) as a clan name. Probably. 

(For PICs please see above)

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Saturday, December 17, 2022

2-Saka-Names-against-Persian-King-Darius


Source: 3 Saka Princes against Darius


There were 3 Saka Princes who fought against Darius 2500 years ago.

About those 3 I can't find much information. There is really not much info in www.


Their names were:

Σακεσφάρης Sakesfaris

This name is maybe a title Sakes-Faris (the ..... of the Saka), maybe. I don't know. Not interesting for our theme.

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The next 2 are very interesting!

Ὁμάργης Omargis

It is an interesting name anyway for Turkic languages. Omargi-s could have the meaning of UMAYCI (The believer of the Goddess Umaj) > UMURGA (egg) maybe he was very round.

or it could be the root AMIR- meaning silent, quiet.

From the Proto Altaic root *amV meaning  to be quiet; sleep: Tung. *ām-; Mong. *amu-, *ami-; Turk. *ăm-.

OMIR-means to crush.

Umar means Mongolian a big river, too.

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The second name sounds like Massagetean Queen Tomyris. 

For me it is possible that the both are the same person, bit it is now about the name. 

Θάμυρις Tamiris


It sounds like TAMAR/TAMIR and it could mean a mineral ore/streak (and of course vein in a body, too) and this could lead us to demir/Tamir meaning iron (the most important metal).


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Ancient-Araxes-Volga-and-possible-Turkic-etymologies




Antik ARAXES nehri, Volga 


Birçok Türkçe isme sahiptir:

İtil/Etil

Sarı Su (Sarı Irmak)

Yul (yalnızca Uralca Mari dilinde Tatarca'dan "yol"dan alınma)

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Ve şimdi daha da fazlası!

www'de biri olası Türkçe kelimekökeni için diyor ki:

Arık-Su < Arık: su kanalı

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Bense ARIG/ARIĞ saf, temiz diyorum; kutsal (en uygunu bence)

>ARIGSU:Kutsal Su > ARAXES ?

Bir tane daha Proto Türkçe YARI/YARIQ/YARIK/YARUK kökü var

YARI/YARIQ/YARIK/YARUK Parlamak, ışıldamak anlamında!

Çok geniş bir nehir, bu yüzden belki de ayışığını/günışığını çok iyi yansıttığı için 


YARIQ SU: Parlak Nehir/Parlak Nehir?


Olası mı

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Ancient ARAXES river, Volga

It has many Turkic names like: Itil/Etil/Atal/Idil Sarı Su (Yellow Water/River) Yul ('way' only in Uralic Mari lang from Tatar Turkish "YOL") And now even more!
One in www says possible Turkic etymo: Arık-Su<Arık: water canal I would say:ARIG/ARIĞ pure, clean; holy (I like holy most)
>ARIGSU:Holy Water > ARAXES?

There is also a Proto Turkic root YARI-/YARIQ/YARIK/YARUK meaning to shine or shining It is a very wide river, so maybe it reflected the moonlight/sunlight very well that is why YARIQ SU: Shiny River/Bright River> ARAXES? Possible?

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Sunday, December 11, 2022

Some-Scythian-words-names-versus-Turkic-roots

 


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Strymon was a Scythian man. If we throw the first S (S-mobile of Indo Europeans?) then we have Trymon. It sounds like Turkic "Toraman" meaning very big. We know that the suffix -man is a very old Turkic intensifying suffix meaning "a lot, huge amount of..., many, very".

Like Saruman (look at Saruman in Lord of the Rings) means in Turkish "very white".

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Ugoroi: a Scythian tribe.

Pauly says: 

"There are experts who deny the identity of this people." (see first sentence).

Ugor/Ogur are the same, aren't they?

Ogur is a Turkic word meaning simply 'the tribe'.

There are many Ogurs: 

For instance On ogur > Hungary

Or Kutrigur, etc...

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Iastei


A Scythian tribe (of Indo German origin?)


Would say they could have been Turkic, too.

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Yas could be Turkic "yaş" meaning green, fresh.

Turkic "yaz" on the other hand means "summer" and the verb "yas-" means "to make flat"

Tai means mountain. (like in Tau-rus).


Now "Iastai" (Yastai) could be 

Flat Mountain

Green Mountain

Summer Mountain

or the tribes from there. 

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Edoi (Ἠδοί)

A Scythian tribe

Look at the Turkic word: edi/idi, meaning host, owner, master.


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Gargareis: a Scythian tribe


Karga(garga): crow, probably from kara: black

Garga er? Crow men? 


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Geloni: A Scythian tribe

Turkic YILAN?: snake

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Gnissi, a Scythian tribe



Güneş/Küneş means in Turkish "the day or the sun". 

Other meanings in other dialects are "sunny place, hot place"


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Gorgippia: Ancient city on the Black Sea, called after the Scythian Tribe that lived there.




Turkic Korku: the fear (like on Gorgon)

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pliny-mieotis-region-and-its-nations

  * Pliny writes about some tribal names near Lake Mieotis. The interesting ones for me are: Sauromatæ Gynæcocratumeni (the husbands of the ...