Pre-Greek-araios-versus-Tuerkic-ara

 

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ἀραιός

a Pre-Greek word according to Beekes 

In the book below 

Pre-Greek Phonology, Morphology, Lexicon edited by Stefan Norbruis (Brill, 2014)

we can see that word.

According to wiktionary there is no etymology for this word.

> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%80%CF%81%CE%B1%CE%B9%CF%8C%CF%82

It has many meanings like:

1. thin, lean, narrow, slight, slender
2. not dense, of loose texture, porous
3. with intervals, intermittent
4. infrequent, scanty, few and far between

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I have a proposal for its etymology:

Türkic ara meaning "space between" or "the pause that interrupts the continuity".

Arata arata means sometimes. (See Eski Türkçe Sözlük by Fuzuli Bayat)

I think you have to be blind not to see the parallel.

And yes, it is an Altaic word according to Starostin/Dybo. 

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And now a similar word 

πυκνός 

> https://lsj.gr/wiki/%CF%80%CF%85%CE%BA%CE%BD%CF%8C%CF%82

meaning 

close-packed, crowded, thick, close, dense 

> https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0058%3Aentry%3Dpukno%2Fs1

There is a Türkic word bük/pük meaning thicket, bushes.

Similar?

Same?

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TÜRKÇE

ἀραιός

Beekes'e göre bir Ön-Yunanca kelime (yani Yunanca değil)

Aşağıdaki kitapta

Stefan Norbruis tarafından düzenlenmiş Ön-Yunanca Fonoloji, Morfoloji, Sözlük (Brill, 2014)

bu sözcüğü görebiliriz.

Wiktionary'ye göre bu kelimenin etimolojisi yok.

> > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BC%80%CF%81%CE%B1%CE%B9%CF%8C%CF%82

Birçok anlamı var, örneğin:

ince, zayıf, dar, hafif, narin

yoğun olmayan, gevşek dokulu, gözenekli

aralıklı, kesintili

seyrek, az, seyrek

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Etimolojisi içinse benim bir önerim var:

Türkçede "ara", "aradaki boşluk" veya "sürekliliği kesen duraklama" anlamına gelir.

Eski Türkçe arata arata, zaman zaman demektir (Fuzuli Bayat - Eski Türkçe Sözlük)

Bence paralelliği görmemek için kör olmak gerekir.

Ve evet, Starostin/Dybo'ya göre de ara sözcüğü Altay dillerinden bir sözcük.

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Ve şimdi benzer bir kelime

πυκνός

> https://lsj.gr/wiki/%CF%80%CF%85%CE%BA%CE%BD%CF%8C%CF%82

anlamı

kalabalık, kalın, yakın, yoğun

> https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0058%3Aentry%3Dpukno%2Fs1

Çalılık, çalı anlamına gelen Türkçe bir kelime olan bük/pük var.

Benzer mi?

Aynı mı?

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Uzunbacak Adem 

names-from-antiquity-and-their-Tuerkic-etymologies-D

 

Etruscan D

The search continues. Below you will find names from antiquity and my suggestions from Turkish regarding their etymology. We keep on with the letter D.

Source: https://topostext.org/the-people

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Arama-bulma çalışmaları devam ediyor. Aşağıda antik çağlardan adlar ve kökenlerine dair Türkçe önerilerimi bulacaksınız. D harfiyle devam ediyoruz. 

Kaynak: https://topostext.org/the-people

Topostext Name	Info	Türkic word	Info	Other Info
Dactyls	were the archaic mythical race of male beings associated with the Great Mother, the Dactyls of Mount Ida in Crete invented the art of working metals into usable shapes with fire (dactylos means fingers)	teg-: to touch (it is meaningful, if we think the the hand touches (dactyl: finger)	On the other hand the verb tak- to bind to, to attach to in Türkic	art of working metals was very common among Türks.
many names beginning with Damar….	a boxer, a woman, etc	tamar/damar	artery; root	see also tomar: block, log and to break off, chip off
Damasus	person in the Iliad (und an other character)	Damsız	roof. wall, hut (less)	+sız means ‚+less‘
Damocles	a courtier in the court of Dionyssos	dam:	roof. wall, hut (less)	okle ~ogul: son + possessive suffix +u * Also the name Dionyssos is a very interesting name, compare Türkic Dengiz meaning see, ocean (like in the Mongolian version Chingis)
Dandamis	Indian philosopher in Alexander’s Era, his temporary	tanta-mış	to hit	the suffix mVş is veri popular in Türkic onomastics like in the names Tuğrulmuş, Almış, Ulaşmış, Kanmış
Daplidice	daughter of Danaus	tapla-: to like, to love	passive making suffix +dVk	she who was liked/loved
Dapyx	Dapyx was a 1st-century BC chieftain of a Getae tribe or a tribe union in Scythia Minor (nowadays in Dobruja).	tapık	front man, a chieftain
Dasius Altinius	an Italian officer in the 2nd Punic war	Altun taş / Altuntaş	golden stone, meaning „a strong and valuable person“	there are people and towns with that name in Türkish history; this name is still in use as family name in Modern Türkiye
Dasyllius	epithet of Dionyssos	Taşlu	a male name in Ottoman Türkish era
Daulia	a place acc. to Ptolemaeus	tau	Mountain
Degmenos	An archer of Epeian origin	tegme: to get in touch, contact (also in war)	? tegmen: he who attacks much
Derinoe	an Amazone	Derin-ay	Deep-moon	derin: also boundless
Dionyssos/Dionyssius/Dionys…	many persons with that name	deniz/dengiz	sea, ocean
Doryklus	many characters have this name	toruk/doru	a brownish color of a horse	+ suffix +lV meaning „with“, „who has“
Drugeri	A Thracian tribe	otruk: island	er: men
Dynamene	a nereid	ene	mother
Dyracchus	a character	Durak	a very Türkic name	meaning „he should stay with us“, because this family ha lost many children that is why the name probably

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Uzunbacak Adem 

names-from-antiquity-and-their-Tuerkic-etymologies-C

 

The search continues. Below you will find names from antiquity and my suggestions from Turkish regarding their etymology. We keep on with the letter C.

Source: https://topostext.org/the-people

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Arama-bulma çalışmaları devam ediyor. Aşağıda antik çağlardan adlar ve kökenlerine dair Türkçe önerilerimi bulacaksınız. C harfiyle devam ediyoruz. 

Kaynak: https://topostext.org/the-people

Topostext Name	Info	Türkic word	Info	Other Info
Cadurci	no flax is more brilliantly white or more closely resembles wool; and similarly the flax grown by Cadurcihas a special reputation for mattresses: this use of it is an invention of the provinces of Gaul, as likewise is flock (Pliny)	qadır-:	to twist, bend, turn (the lambswool)	Under info we see that the lambswool is a famous product of that tribe, like the Türkish „flock“ that the The Türks used for almost everything in daily life, for their clothes and tents etc.> kadırık: twisted things°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° other qadır means strong, hard
Cadusii Cadusians; Καδούσιοι, Kadoúsioi; Latin: Cadusii, Arabic:Qādūsīān	were an ancient Iranian tribe that lived in the mountains between Media and the shore of the Caspian Sea	qadysh	belt
Callines Καλλίνης	a veteran officer in the royal companion-cavalry (τῆς ἵππου τῆς ἑταιρικῆς) of Alexander the Great, took an active part in the reconciliation between him and his army in B. C. 324. (Arrian, Arr. Anab. 7.11.)	kalın	big, thick	Kalıng Kara: a person in Türkish hlstory
Callinus Καλλῖνος	a Greek poet from Ephesus	kalın	big, thick	Kalıng Kara: a person in Türkish hlstory
Callipolis/Orthopolis	Callipolis name of many ancient cities in Anatolia, Apulia, Caria, etc	kalı: place to stay	bolıq: city	Orthoplis: Ortabolıq (middle city).
Calyce	name of many persons	kalık	sky, heavens
Capaneus	a mythical character: According to the legend, Capaneus had immense strength and body size and was an outstanding warrior	kapan	boar	an animal that is admired by the Türks because of its strength. Kapan ist a 100% compatible name for Türkic onomastics
Caracalla	a Roman emperor	Kara kulak	black-eared	See Caracal cats whose name derives also from Türkic < Karakulak
Caracoma	an ancient place in Thrace (of Samothracians)	Kara Kum	black sand
Caranus	names of 2 men	Karan	kara: black, the dark one	Karanggu: the dark one, one with the dark eyes (meaning eventually the one who git crazy) with en evil heart
Caratacus	British chieftain of the Catuvellauni tribe	kara taku	Back hen (bird)
Carcinites	A river in Scythian area	Karkın	Overflowing and satisfying	a good name for a river and the name of an Oghuz tribe; there are still villages with tis name in modern Türkiye
Carcinus	a river in Italy	Karkın	Overflowing and satisfying	a good name for a river - the name of an Oghuz tribe; there are still villages with tis name in modern Türkiye
Carcinus Καρκίνος	a  poet (4th C BC), there are 2 more as poets with this name	Karkın	Overflowing and satisfying	There is a character with the name DEDE KARKIN in Türkish history (Dede: grandpa (the mature one, the wise one)
Caresus	a river and a town in Troad (Today Biga Türkiye)	kara su	black water
Carna	She was the Roman goddess of the heart and other organs, as well as the patroness of health.	karın	abdomen, belly
Carsidava	Dacian fortified place	karşı	against, the other, enemy
Casus	son of Inachus in Greek mythology	kaşu	a Türkic title or name attested in Chinese sources, msee On-Ok confederation / Nushibi	His father’s name Inakhos is Türkic, too. I have written about that name
Cephissus/Cephisus	name of river gods/a watercourse	su	water
Cerambux/Cerambus	a beetle/a person who was turned into a beetle	bö	beetle	like in attalabos
Chabura	In the whole world one spring of water only is said to have a pleasant smell, and that is at Chabura in Mesopotamia(Pliny)	bur-	to smell	today Habur (Türkiye/Syria)
Charondas Χαρώνδας	Ancient Greek Statesman	karındaş	lit. ones who came from the same womb	German Geschwister. in Charandas in Codex Cumanicus, 1303
Chrysus Χρυσός (this is not from topostext)	a minor god, personification of gold	kır: red, reddish	Proto-Korean kuri: copper	Türkish kırıl: gold, Mongolian kürel: bronze
Clymene	name of many women	ene	mother	Külim: smiling
Colaxais	A Scythian king	Çolak/Kolak	one-armed, one-handed
Cosingas	A Thracian commander	koşun	soldier
Cothus	A Boeotian character	kotuz	yak bull
Cotus	A character who lived in the time of Julius Caesar (Gallic wars)	kotuz	yak bull
Cotys/Kotys	There are many kings etc with that name	kotuz	yak bull	Like Türk Kotuz of the Mameluke king who’s stopped the Mongolian Raid in Ayn-JAlut
Cotys	a female Thracian deity	koduz	widow
Crimesus	a river name on Sicily	su	water	Crinisus: water deity
Crinacus	bastard son of Zeus	kırnak	servant	actually kırnak means female servant (but maybe earlier it had only the meaning servant without gender); additionally it has the meaning of tidy in Anatolian Türkish
Crobyzi	A Thracian tribe	kır: a mountain/grey	obuz: a small river
Cumani/Comani	Türkic tribe	Kuman/Cuman	A Türkic tribe	Pliny the Elder mentions that name already in 1st C.
Cumanus	was the Roman procurator of Iudaea Province from AD 48 to c. AD 52.	Cuman/Kuman	A Türkic tribe	Like many Türks in Roman Empire/Armies he should have been a good soldier (He was a knight).
Kyknus/Cycnos	many characters having that name	Kugu	swan	OVID, METAMORPHOSES (OV.+MET.) § 7.371  And she saw the lakes of Hyrie in Teumesia's Vale, by swans frequented — There to satisfy his love for Cycnus,
Cyna/Cynane	elf sister of Alexander	küne	second wife
Cynics	ancient school of philosophy - name from κυνικός(kynikos) ‚dog-like'	enik	whelp
Cynna	an Amazon	güne/küne	second wife
Cynortas	King of Sparta	Konur: brown	ata: father	his son’s name was Oebalus (Türkish Aybala)
Cynurus	Son of Perseus	Konur	brown
Cyzicus	King of Doliones	Kızık	angry one	Father’s name: Oesorus= Aysaru= Moonwhite; there was a very old Türkic Oghuz tribe with that name

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