Wednesday, January 15, 2025

Goddess-Athena-Athana-Turkic-AtaAna

 

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Athena according to Wikipedia:

"Athena[b] or Athene,[c] often given the epithet Pallas,[d] is an ancient Greek goddess associated with wisdom, warfare, and handicraft[2] who was later syncretized with the Roman goddess Minerva.[3] Athena was regarded as the patron and protectress of various cities across Greece, particularly the city of Athens, from which she most likely received her name.[4] The Parthenon on the Acropolis of Athens is dedicated to her. Her major symbols include owlsolive trees, snakes, and the Gorgoneion. In art, she is generally depicted wearing a helmet and holding a spear."

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There are many version of the name:

Ἀθηνᾶ Athēná,

 Ἀθηναία Athēnaía,

Ἀθήνη Athḗnē,

Ἀθάνα Athána,

 Ἀθηναίη Athēnaíē

(source: German wikipedia)

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Etymology and origin of the name are unknown. No Indo-European root, so most probably a Pre-Greek goddess. (That means no Greek goddess).

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Wiki goes on: 

"A single Mycenaean Greek inscription 𐀀𐀲𐀙𐀡𐀴𐀛𐀊 a-ta-na po-ti-ni-ja appears at Knossos in the Linear B tablets from the Late Minoan II-era "Room of the Chariot Tablets";[14][15][9] these comprise the earliest Linear B archive anywhere.[14] Although Athana potnia is often translated as "Mistress Athena", it could also mean "the Potnia of Athana", or the Lady of Athens.[9][16]However, any connection to the city of Athens in the Knossos inscription is uncertain."

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If we accept the explanation with 𐀀𐀲𐀙𐀡𐀴𐀛𐀊 a-ta-na po-ti-ni-ja (from a Linear B inscription), it would be perfect Türkish match. 

Let us see:

Atana would easily math with the Türkic words AtaAna or AtaEne

Ata would mean "the ancestor" and Ana/Ene "the mother"

> Ancestor Mother

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Even the second word in Linear B inscription would make sense in Türkic!

Potinija matches with the Turkic word bodun meaning "the tribes", from bod (the tribe) with the plural suffix +an.

Athana Potinija would match almost a 100 % with the Türkish words Bodun(un) Ata Ana(sı) meaning the "The Ancestral Mother of the tribes".

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Uzunbacak Adem

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The Proto-Türkic and Old-Türkish words below: 

(Source: Starostin/Dybo)



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(Bonus word here: check English body out!)


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Wednesday, January 1, 2025

Hesiods-Alazygos-Türkic-alacik

 


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Mr. Pauly writes about Alazygos/Ἀλάζυγος in his Encyclopedia. There is not much information about him. Son of Hallirothios and brother of Seros. Relevant information for me is the age of this name. 

Hesiod mentioned him. That means 7th C. BCE in one of the oldest sources in the world history. The name Alazygos/Ἀλάζυγος is old/older than 2700 years old, it means. 

That is the important point.

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Now why is this name important?

Because it can be easily explained with Türkish language.

There are Old Türkic/Türkic/Türkish words like alacu/alaçu/alaçuk/alaçık/alacık in the dictionaries.

Nisanyan:


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Gülensoy:


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Bayat:


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What does that word mean?

Easy!

It means a kind of tent or a simply hut made of brushwood. 

It could be easily a name for a man who was born into such a tent. 

Alazyg-os could only be explained with that Türkic word.

Or do you have an other proposal?

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Türks and Türk language existed 2700 years ago. This name is an indicator for that!

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Uzunbacak Adem


Tuesday, December 31, 2024

Paulys-alana-ori-Turkic-alan

 


In Paulys Realencyclopädie der classischen Altertumswissenschaft we read the word Αλανά Όρη/Alana Ori.

Ptolemy wrote already about it in the 2nd C AD. 

"Αλανά Όρη/Alana Ori is a mountain range in Scythia, north of the Caspian Sea, i.e. the Mugodžaren hills in the Kirghiz steppe, a natural continuation of the southern Urals."


There is no certain etymology for that mountains/mountain range north of the Caspian Sea, Urheimat of the Türks.

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But it is a very interesting word indeed. Alan means in Modern Turkish an open field, an area, a square, etc., from Proto-Türkic alaŋ meaning level ground, plain. (According to Dybo/Starostin).
>Middle Türkic alaŋ (alang)

The other Altaic words are here to see:



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It should be a plain in this mountain range where Scythian horses grazed (German Tal). Another indicator for the Turkishness of the Scythian. 

Conclusion I: Alana Ori could have been a Türkic word.

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It is not over!

Modern Greek took that word again from (Ottoman) Türkish.






αλάνα<αλάνι means empty/vacant lot in Greek from Türkish آلاڭ , meaning plain, open space:





 
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But it is still not enough:

Ancient Greek word ὄρος/ὄρη has no certain etymology, either.
For that I have a Türkic one, too:

Proto-Türkic *or means (higher) place, throne 
> Old Türkic orun: dwelling place





End-Conclusion: Alana Ori should have meant "a plain place between mountains to live" in Türkish of that time.

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Uzunbacak Adem




Saturday, December 28, 2024

Pre-Greek-agalma-Proto-Tuerkic-kaling

 

Englisch Dowry - Türkish Kalın - German Mitgift / Aussteuer

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There is an Ancient Greek word agalma/ἄγαλμα meaning jewelry, votive gift, sacred work of art in Pauly's RE:



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According to wiki a word of uncertain origin (Source Robert Beekes):



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My turn:

There is a Proto-Türkic word *Kalım, meaning "ransom for bride". Ancient Türks (like many other Eurasian peoples) had/have this tradition. Türkish ransom for bride could be anything worthy like a horse, money, gold, other presents, etc...

I think Pre-Greek word agalma could have been derived from a Türkic language.

The other dialects have this Proto-Türkic *Kalım as kalın, kalım, galıng, kalıng, qalım, etc...

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Uzunbacak Adem


Thursday, December 26, 2024

Paulys-Achaiachala-Turkic-Ak-kala-fortress-city

 


Pauly wrote about a fortified place on the Euphrates called "Achaiachala". He shows us Ammianus Marcellinus as source.

Ammianus Marcellinus wrote about that in his Roman History (4th Century AD). 

He wrote:


After passing this place we came to another fortress, Achaiachala by name, also protected by the encircling river, and difficult of ascent. (Source: the Loeb Classical Library edition, 1940).

(Possibly to be identified with the modern island of Bidjan or the city of Haditha in Iraq.)

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There is no info about the origin (of the name) of this fortress or I couldn't find it.

It is actually a very interesting name. A fortress on a river!

Now I can explain it:
Ak- means to flow > akığ means flow, current;
kala means simply a fortress, a city.
>Akığ-kala
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Both words in Achaia-chala (read Akayakala) are a 100 % compatible with those 2 Türkish words above. 
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It shows us that the Türks and Türkish language existed in the 4th C in Middle Eastern Region. They were mercenaries or even owner of their own state?

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Uzunbacak Adem 

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More about that issue?

read KALA

Wednesday, December 25, 2024

Natural-History-Pliny-an-Turki-origined-words

 


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I have read the book Natural History of Pliny partly. Book I  till Book VI.

Here what I have found!

There are more that 160 words that possibly/probably/definitely of Türkish origin.

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General opinion: Turks suddenly appeared on the stage of history as an empire in the 6th century. They had not existed before and most probably they came down from the sky in a basket. I am against that opinion. Turks were present in Europe and Asia, especially in the Mediterranean Basin before the birth of Jesus. They gave Turkish names to the places they lived in and did not lose their own Turkish names for a while. I searched for those names that were about to be erased and found them. Here you go, read! 

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Pliny word

Info

Türkic word

Info

Another info

Corduba

a town

oba

dwelling place

?koru-: to pretect

Onoba

a town

oba

dwelling place

on: ten (10)

Salduba

a town

oba

dwelling place

sal-: to let go





by corduba/salduba above, -d- could be a combining consonant or auxiliary consonant

Menoba

a river

oba

dwelling place


Turduli

a people with unknown origin, not much info

turdu: they who exists further

(i)li: the land

the land of the existing people (still existing after a big war?)

Uduba

a river

oba

dwelling place


Subi

a river

sub

water


Subur

a town

suwar/savir

name of a Türkic people 

Gyula Németh and Paul Pelliotconsidered Turkic etymology for Säbir / Sabïr / Sabar / Säβir / Sävir / Savar / Sävär / Sawār / Säwēr from the root *sap- 'to go astray', i.e. the 'wanderers, nomads', placed in a group of semantically similar names: QazarQazaqYazar, and Qačar.

Salaria

a colony

Salar

an ancient Türkic people

mercenaries?

illiberi

a town 

il: land, home

beri: south, that that is near place


Oxubii

a tribe

okçu

archers

see Uxii in Persia

Italy





Caturiges

a tribe

ogur in it?

like in Kutrigur


Rutuba

a river

oba

dwelling place


Tauri

a people

tau

mountain


Caralitani

a people on Sardinia, their town was Carali

kara

holy, great; north


Agyrini

a people

ağır/agır

valuable, not light


Gelani

a people

yılan

snake


Ietenses

a people

yet-: 

to reach

yeten: he who can reach

Tyracinenses

a people

turak

they who stood up

tur-: to stand

Sybaris

a river

su: water

bars: leopard


Camuni 

a tribe

qamuɣ

(to gather all), altogether, all

a good name for a confederation of tribes (a la Steppe)

Sarunetes

a tribe

saru

yellow


Octodurenses

a tribe

okta-

to shoot arrows

dur-/tur-: to stand

Cottius

a pagan Chieftain, later called Marcus Julius Cottius 

kotuz

yak bull

there are many Kotuz in Türkish history, I have already written about that name

Taulantii

a tribe

tau

mountain


Acarnanians

a people

Akar: the flowing


acheloos: a river in that region, akiglig means the flowing

Alyzia

an ancient city in Acarnania

yalız

<yal-: to burn ,to shine

Yalız: a name in modern Türkiye. has to do with fire, shine…

Aetolia Αἰτωλία

mountainous region of Greece on the north coast of the Gulf of Corinth, forming the eastern part of the modern regional unit of Aetolia-Acarnania.

ay tolu: full moon

again a name in modern Türkiye

CHAP. 3. (2.)—ÆTOLIA.

Athamanes

a people of Aetolia

Ataman

hundert percent Turkish word/name/title


Pylene

a town

bula-

to spring (water) > Bulag: Wasserquelle


Tomarus

a mountain

tom: 1 round, convex 2 ball, smth. round 3 somersault 4 thick, bulging 5 to swell

tomar: 1 block, log 2 to hack, hew 3 to break off, chip off

a round mountain

Acanthon 

a mountain

ak-: to flow

akan: that that flows


Ambracia

a mountain

amrak: A Göktürk khan

amra-: to get quiet, to love


Argyna

a town

argun

ermine, a kind of weasel

gün: a day, ar-: to get tired (>argın: tired)

Cephisus

a river

su: water



Ambrysus

a river

amra-

to get quiet, 

su: water

Daulis

a district

tau

Mountain


Thebes

a town

tepe

hill


Bura

a town

bora

storm, windstorm


Araxus Άραξος

a toen with 2 lagoons

arık

clean, clear

su: water

Cyparissus

a gulf

su: water



Pylos

a town near Cyparissus

pula-

to spring (water) > Bulag: Wasserquelle


Taygetus

a mountain

tay

mountain


Inachian

an adjective for Argos

inak

a governmental title by the Türks


Ilissus

a river

ılı: warm

su: water


Gargaphia

a valley and spring sacred to Diana near Plataea in Boeotia

karga: crow

crow is one of the animals associated to Diana

CHAP. 12.—BŒOTIA.

Mount Œta, Öta, Οἴτη

mountain 

öt-: 

 to pass by, pass thru


Echinus

a town

ekin: that what was planted, 

<ek-: to plant

ekin: millet, wheat, etc…

Othrys 

a mountain

otru/ortu

the middle

otruk: island

Pamisus

a river

su: water



Onochonus

a river 

onuk: valuable, respectable, holy

on: the right one, 10


iolcos

a town in Magnesia

yol

the way

there are many „yol-“ words like yolik sacrifice, yolluk: that you take for the road to eat, yollug: an old khan of the Türks: the auspicious (ugurlu)

Hormenium

a town in Magnesia

orman

forest

or-: to cut

Pyrrha

a town in Magnesia

bur-:

to smell


Olizon

a town in Magnesia

yalız

to shine, to burn


Orthe

a town in Magnesia

orta

the middle, 

orta: where the king sits/lives

Acharne

a town in Magnesia

Akar: the flowing


CHAP. 16. (9.)—MAGNESIA.

Axius

a river

aksu

white water


Panysus

a river in Thrace

su: water



Odessus

a town

su: water



Taphiae

an island

tap-:

to worship, to serve


Pinara

an island

PINAR

an Old Turkic word meaning water spring

not sure of origin of this word 

Cnossus

a city on Crete

su: water



Coresus

a town

su: water



Halmydessos

A town in Thrace

su: water



Ortygia

a small island (Cyclades)

otruk: island 

ortuk ~ otruk


Hamaxobii

a tribe in Dacia/Sarmatia (were a nomadic tribe who lived in chariots with leather tents mounted on them.)

amaç: Farmer's implements such as oxen, ploughs and the like, oxen agricultural implements (DLT)

oba: dwelling place

amaç-oba: a dwelling place that was pulled by oxen?

iazyges

a tribe

YAZIG/YAZIK

Steppe

CHAP. 25.—DACIA, SARMATIA.

Pathissus

a river

su: water

bat-? = to sink


Axiaces

a river

ak-: to flow

yaka: shoire


Ordesos

Today’s Okzakow (Ochakov) 

su: water

orda: middle


Acesinus

a river

ak-: to flow

aksin!: let it flow

aksu: white water, -n: plural suffix

Carcinites

a golf

karkin

a very old Türkic tribe

i have already written a blog about that

Carcin

a city

karkin

a very old Türkic tribe


Byges/Bukes/Byce

a gulf at the end of the Sea of Azof.

bük

1 wood, forest 2 hill 3 meadow 4 valley between mountains


Gerrus

a river (today Molochna)

gerü/kerü

the back


Orgocyni

a Scythian tribe

örgü

braid (hair)

i have already written a blog about that

Characeni

a Scythian tribe

Kara: black

kın/kin

sheath

Arsilachitæ

a Scythian tribe

arsıl: brownish, yellowish (like in Arslan, its color)

kıtay: old Türkic personal name

an old Türkic/Mongolian tribe that ruled China

Caliordi (Caliordoi)

a Scythian tribe

kalı: the rest (die Übrigen) 

orta/orda: the middle

the old palace?

Traktari

a Scythian tribe

?Otrak

island, the middle


Scythotauri

Mountain Scythes

tau

mountain

er: soldier, men

Satarchae

a Scythian tribe (They were unacquainted with the use of gold and silver, and carried on their traffic by means of barter)

sat-: to exchange, to sell



Taphrae

town in Scythia

topra/Tapra 

topra- 'to turn into dust, dry out'

>toprak

Syrtes

which are rendered perilous by the shallows of their quicksands and the ebb and flow of the sea

sırt

tableland, mountain ridge


Sagalessos

a town in Pisidia

su: water



Pinara

a town in Lycia

pınar (attested Oguz word)

well, spring


Telmessus

a town in Lycia

su: water



Axon

A river in Caria

aksu

white water

CHAP. 29—CARIA.

Calynda

a town in Caria

kalın

numerous

or kal: to be left > to stay

Bubasus

a town in Caria

su: water



Acanthus

a town in Caria

akan

the flowing


Themisones 

a people in Caria

deniz

sea

Denizin: that that belongs to deniz 

Apamea

This place was built near Celænæ by Antiochus Soter, and named after his mother Apama.

apa-ama

older mother, respectable mother


Celænæ

a place in Caria

kalın

numerous


Harpasus

a river

arpa: millet

su: water

meaning compare to Arpaçay

Halesus

a river in Ionia

al: red

su: water


Ortygia

an old name of Ephesus (founded by Amazon’s)

orty/otru/orta

the middle

the place of the palace of the king

Attalia

a town in Aeolis

ata: father

-li: suffix for „with“ > a place where a respectable man lives < ATALI

CHAP. 32. (30.)—ÆOLIS.

Gergitha

a town in Aeolis

kerki-(t)

a small axe, an Altay tribe

-t: plural suffix

Pedasus

Adramytteos

su: water



Rhesus

a river in Troas

su: water

ari?: clean


Caresus

a river in Troas

su: water

kar?: snow


Tamasos

a town in Cyprus

su: water



Imbrasus

a river in Samos

su: water

yambir: rain


Serinis

a river in Bythinia

serin

cool

from Mongolian serigin

Amycus

a town called after a king called Amycus (of Bebrykians)

?amık

the quiet one


Cyzikus

a town at Propontis

kızık

angry one


Thynias

an island in Propontis

tün

dark, night


Bityhnia

a region

bi: knife

tün: dark

they who with dark knives?

Themiseyra

a town, a river

deniz

sea

CHAP. 4.—THE REGION OF THEMISCYRA, AND THE NATIONS THEREIN.

Comana

a toponym 

Cuman/Kuman

an old Türk tribe


Cercetæ

a people

kerki-(t)

adze, mattock, axe


Thalli

a people who border on the eastern side upon the mouth15 of the Caspian sea

tal: branch, -li: possessive suffix

taluy: ocean


Icarusa

a river 

yukari su

high water


Colica

a region in which the mountain chain of Caucasus bends away towards the Riphæan mountains, as we have previously2mentioned; one side running down towards the Euxine and the Lake Mæotis,

köl

sea/lake


Sauromatæ Gynæcocratumeni

husbands of Amazons

tümen

ten thousand


Zigae

a tribe

çigay

poor (mittellos)


the Orani

a tribe in Mieotis

orun ornağ

the throne, the place of the throne


Autacae

a tribe in Mieotis

otağ

tent, living place (tent-makers?)


the Camacae

a tribe in Mieotis

kamak/kamug

all together (united); Kam: Shaman


the Cantiocae

a tribe in Mieotis

Kandik/kantik/Kentük, etc

a vessel < kian;: a hole (an Altaic word)


the Auchetae

a tribe in Mieotis

ok-at-:

to throw arrows > (good) archers?


Absarus

a river in Caucasia

ab-: to spring water

saru/sarı: yellow


the Menobardi

a tribe in bw. Assia and Armenia

bengü-verdi

god-given (~Theodore)

there is Celaleddin of Kharezm  

Cabalaca

a city in Caucasia

kabalak

an alternative form of Kalpak (a Türkish headgear) kalabak, kabalak. Acc. to Nisanyan it derives from the word kaba meaning felt (German Filz). There is still a Türk people called Karakalpak, meaning black-hats. Was Cabalaca a city where Kalpak wearing or making people lived?

CHAP. 11. (10.)—ALBANIA, IBERIA, AND THE ADJOINING NATIONS.

Alazan 

a river in Caucasia

ala-su

colored water 


Cumania

a fortress in Caucasia

Cuman/Kuman

A Türk people


Pharnacea

an island of Euxine

parnak/parmak

finger? bar-: to reach, to go and burn the bridges


Lytarmis

the first place that is known is Lytarmis,6a promontory of Celtica

ulu-tarım

the big (holy) delta (of a river). In DLT tarım means a delta, where the stream disperses. tarım also means -to cultivate the soil, cultivated soil. (agriculture) > See Tarim Basin

CHAP. 14. (13.)—NATIONS IN THE VICINITY OF THE SCYTHIAN OCEAN.

Carambucis 

a river , maybe Dvina

karam: watered

bük: thicket

i have already written a blog about that

Taurus

a mountain 

tau

mountain


Zariaspa

a city of Baktria

sari: yellow

sipa: foal


district of Zothale

For, seeing that it was watered by the Margus,8 which passes through it, and is afterwards divided into a number of streams for the irrigation of the district of Zothale

çat

a place where two roads or streams meet, a junction

>Modern Türkish çatal: fork

Orkiani

a people in Baktria

Orhan ~ Orkhan

ordu: army, Han: chieftain


Comani

a people in Baktria

Cuman/Kuman

an ancient Türkic people


Oxus

the name of a lake and a river  (Aral and Ceyhun)

ögüz: river

Türkic Oguz tribe called Ceyhun ögüz

OR aksu: white water

Oxydracae

a people in Baktria

oküz: ox

turğak: a place to stop, to be on guard duty

at Oxus?

Graucasis

The Scythian call Mount Caucasus Graucasis which means "white with snow.“

kar: snow

ak: white

100% compatible

Essesdones/Issidones

a Scythian nation

isi-: to make hot, warm

don/ton: cloth, garment

CHAP. 19. (17.)—THE NATIONS OF SCYTHIA AND THE COUNTRIES ON THE EASTERN OCEAN.

Ariacae

a Scythian nation

arı: bee; arı-: to clean

yaka: border (also shore, German Ufer)


Amardi 

a Scythian nation

amır-: to be quiet



The Came

a Scythian nation

kam 

shaman


Euchatae

a Scythian nation

yok: 1 up, above 2 hill, elevation

ata: father

holy fathers? descendants who sit higher?

Cotieri

a Scythian nation

katı

difficult, hard

er: man, soldier

Psacae

a Scythian nation

bus-: 

to ambush, to catch unawares


Antacati

a Scythian nation

antık-: to swear on oath

> ant: oath


Chroasai

a Scythian nation

say

a small river

kuru?: dry

Oetei

a Scythian nation

öt-: to pass by, pass through

Modern Türkish öte: beyond, further 


Carpasus

a river in Scythia

su: water



Tazata

an island in Caspian

taz/daz: bald

ata: island

taz-ata: only rocks, nothing else? OR taš: stone

Tabis

a mountain range in Asia

tepe/töpü

hill, top


Seres

probably Chinese

serig

shiny


Psitharas

a river in Scythia

pus: fog

ara: the place between (a border?)


Cynaba

a gulf in Siberia

kün: people (like in El gün)

oba: dwelling place


Themisteas

a promontory

tengiz

sea

CHAP. 28.—THE PERSIAN AND THE ARABIAN GULFS











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Uzunbacak Adem

Goddess-Athena-Athana-Turkic-AtaAna

  * Athena according to Wikipedia: "Athena [ b ]  or  Athene , [ c ]  often given the  epithet   Pallas , [ d ]  is an  ancient Greek g...