Saturday, November 9, 2024

Strabo-words-with-a-possible-Turkic-etymology-part-III

 


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A list of words that could have a Türkic etymology in Strabo's Geography:

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Strabon'un Coğrafya'sında Türk kökenli olabilecek sözcüklerin listesi:

by Uzunbacak Adem!

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Original word

meaning

Türkic word

meaning

other info

Saraparians

A Thracian tribe

sarı

yellow

bar: existing; par: onom. for the burning things, shining things; barağ?: cattle yard

Zariadris   

A commander

sarı: yellow, golden

adır-: to kill? (=ayır)

çeri: soldier, army

Sapaians

a people 

sap-

1 to leave the way, go astray, deviate 2 sideway 3 dodge, trick


Alybians

a people

al

red

yabı? = horse


Chalybians

a people

çal

variegated

yabı? = horse


Otroiai

a town in Bithynia

otru/otruğ

the middle; the island


Angdistis

Anatolian Goddess

Ang: wild game

Karakhanid:aŋ-dɨ- 'to hunt', aŋčɨ 'hunter' (MK)

ang: to understand

Solymians

a people who lived in Phrygia

sol

left

the left ones

Ioulioupolis


a city in Anatolia

Yol: road

balik: city

yollu-balik= a city with (a good) road

Azanitis

a district in Anatolia

az-

to go astray


Besbikos

an Island (Imrali)

beš: 5

bek: firm, solid, stable

were there 5 points that were reinforced

Kyzikenian

a region. From the legendary chieftain Kyzikos

KIZIK

angry


Artakes

a mountain  

artak

ruined, flyblown


Melanos

a promontory 


bel

mountain pass, ridge 


Eukarpia

a town in Anatolia

yokar/yokaru

upwards, higher ground


Apama

the mother of an Emperor (Antiochos Soter) 

Apam

my mother OR Apa-ana: the mighty mother) (Apa: is a kind of title for big, mighty, powerful)

See Apia, Scythian goddess of earth

Karoura

is the boundary between Phrygia and Karia. It is a village with inns and fountains of hot water, some of which are in the Maiandros River and others above its banks. 


kara: black

ara: the place between

or Koru-ara: fenced-place in between OR Koru-ora: fenced (protected) place, OR: middle (like in orta, ordu). 

Acharaka

a town in Caria, Old name Charax(Χάραξ), The earth (there) is easily broken and crumbling but is salty and easily burned. Perhaps this is why the Maiandros is winding, because it frequently changes its stream and carries much silt down, adding it at different times to different parts of the shore, although some of it is forced out into the sea. 


kara: black, burned?

Charax = karaç?

karaç means a kind of black, like black, blackish. There is a Türk  tribe Karaçay whose name possibly derived from their ancestor KARAÇ

Kyme

a town on the coast, today Aliaga in Türkiye

kum

sand


Thebe

a toponym near to Troy

tepe

hill


Themistokles

a „Greek“ General, He was one of a new breed of non-aristocratic politicians who rose to prominence in the early years of the Athenian democracy. (Non aristocratic like Türks in other states who came as slaves and became masters?)

Themis

Tengiz: sea, ocean

oglu: son

Orthannes

a phallic daemon

ortan

the middle (the middle of the body?= penis, vagina)

or-: to split, to cut (that that split to lips of vagina?) about ortan: https://www.academia.edu/94724258/Türkiye_Türkçesi_Ağızları_ve_Altay_Türkçesinde_Ortan_Orton_Kelimesi_Üzerin_L_N_Gumilyev_Üniversitesi

Konisalos

a phallic daemon

konış

neighbor from the verb kon- to land, to stay near to sth/sbd


Tychon

a phallic daemon

dog-

come up, rise, get up (to erect?)


Attalids 

a dynasty in Pergamon, founder father Attalus

ata: father

ATALI: he who having a father

atlığ: he who has a name OR equestrian (he who has a horse (AT).

Kallipolis

a small town

kalı

a place to stay/to live

polis < balik: city

Apaisos

a river

apa/apay: big, respectable 

su: water

aba: elder sister, grandma, etc.

Gergitha

a city in Lydia

kerki

adze, razor, mattock

-t: plural suffix


PAGE 563: There are many identical names among the Thracians and Trojans, such as the Thracians who are called the Skaians, the Skaios River, Skaian Wall, and the Skaian Gates at Troy. There are Thracian Xanthians and the Xanthos River at Troy. There is an Arisbos that empties into the Hebros, and an Arisbe at Troy. There is a Rhesos River at Troy and a Rhesos who was king of the Thracians. There is also another Asios, with the same name, according to the Poet: Asios, who was the maternal uncle of Hektor the tamer of horses and Hekabe's own brother, the son of Dymas who lived in Phrygia on the stream of the Sangarios. [Iliad 16.717­19] 

Thracians and Trojans had probably a similar language



Aiakidai

a people 

ay: moon

akı: generous, munificent

ay is a very popular part of many names meaning moon like Ayhan, Aygül, Aybars, …

Aias

Ajax

Ayas/ayas

a male slave whose face is very bright

ay: moon (white)

Achaians

is one of the names in Homer which is used to refer to the Greekscollectively, Robert S. P. Beekesdoubted its validity and suggested a Pre-Greek*Akaywa-.[3]

ak: white

ay: moon

akay: white moon

Kallikolone

10 stadia above the Village of the Ilians ­ is a particular hill 5 stadia from which the Simoeis flows. 


Kal-: to heap up

kol: a side/a wing of an army; kol: the direction

because a hill is higher, maybe there was a military unit that stayed there and watched 

Aisyetes

a Trojan hero

ay: moon

syet? süt? (milk)

very bright and white face? There are many names in Turkish history with AY at the beginning, 

Kabessos/Kabassus

a town in Anatolia

Kaba: swollen

su: water

kabıs-: to make a battle, to fight

Karesos

a river in Asia Minor

karı: old

su: water

kara: black

Erichthonius

a character in Greek Mythology who had „snake feet“

erig: rough

ton: dress

rough-dressed

Altes

Lord of the Lelegians

altı: six

altı: the one below the first one < alt: below, down

başaltı: the second of the five ranks in which wrestlers are separated in oil wrestling. baş: the first one (lit. head)

Koryphantis

a town name

koru- : protect

bant-: to add, to tie, 


Polichna

a town in today’s Urla / Izmir

baliq

city

Today’s Balikliova. The Türks didn’t have to change the name of the town too much :); +an is a plural suffix

ἀγκυλότοξος (angilotoksos)

the Paionians with „crooked bow“ /(ἀγκυλότοξος)

okçu

bowman


Bargylia 


a town name

bargıl-

to go, to leave

city of whom went away, left (the tribe); var: assets, home

Oitaians

Οἰταίοι, a tribe in Ancient Greece

ay: moon

tai: mountain

oy-: 1 to pick, peck 2 embroidery 3 thimble; oy: 'pit, lowland’, >>> OYTAY: carved mountain, *OR* OYTAY: Pit & Mountain

Tyrtamos

a town, Theophrastos was originally called Tyrtamos 


Tortamış

A Cumanic town name in Gagauzia

Tur-: to stop, to stay, to stand

Teutamos

A Pelasgian chieftain

Tutamış

a oymak (big family)  of Oghuz Slur tribe

there is a tutamış as toponym in Türkic Anatolia and if true a horoscope sign of the Old Türks was called tutamış (13-22 November).

Hamaxitos

a city name

-çV

Suffix that make profession

kaymak?, yamak?

Pylaios

the ruler of the Pelasgians, son of Teutamos (above)

Bulayık

a town name in ancient Uyghur Türk Lands

?<Bulay: here, there its a Bulay Han in Dede Korkut stories and as I have found in www there was a Kara Bulay (I have written a blog about that)

…from Kyme to Adai…(C622) 

a sentence of a destination

kum: sand 

ada: island

Proto-Turkic: *ātag: island

Batieia

a hill before Troja

bat-: to sink

it is the hill where the Trojans gathered to fight. The Türks had always tughs that they sunk in the earth, if they wanted to fight. 

tugh (original tuğ): flag, banner, symbol worn on a spearhead; batrak: flag from bat-

Eumenes

a person name

öy: to praise

+men: an emphasizing suffix

oyman: a deeper place

Attalos 

the brother of Eumenes

ata: father

+lV: with, who is having


Abaeitians

a people

apa/abay: mother, aunt, elder sister

ete ~ ata: father, forefather


Kibyratis 


a town founded by Cibyratae (Ancient Greek: Κιβυρᾶται)

Kıbır

a very old Türk tribe

Kıbrat: a very old Türk clan name

Timaois Τιμαῖος

a philosopher

Tüm: whole

ay: moon

>Tümay

Mount Korakion

A mountain in Torbalı

Kurġaġ/kurġak

simply „the earth“

kurı-: to dry

Korykos

an ancient city in Cilicia

koru- : protect

koruk?: protected


Maiandros

a river, a deity, a city in West Türkiye 

bayundur, bayindir, bayandır

the rich one, der wohlhabende

<bay: richt

Kallinus Καλλῖνος

a "Greek" poet

kalın

1 thick, stiff 2 numerous


Koskinia

 a town name

koskın

strap attached to the saddle by passing under the animal's tail

not sure if the Turkish word old enough

Orthosia

a town name. Its site is located near Yenipazar in Asiatic Turkey.[1][10]

orta

the middle; the place where the chieftain lives


Althaimenes

a person name

Altay

Altay mountains in the Urheimat of the Türks

+men/+man the emphasizing suffix (C653) Page 617

Kamiros

a city on Rhodes (*bright-shining* Kamiros)

kama/Kamaš

1 become blinded, dumb 2 (set) teeth on edge 3 to be tired, pine, droop


ielysos/ialysos

a city on Rhodes  

yel: wind

su: water

yal-: to shine, to burn

baskanoi

sorcerer; eve-eye-ers

baš kam

the first kam (sorcerer) 


Opikians

a people

abık

an old Turkish name 

abı-: to hide, to cover up   

Alabandians

a people

ala: reddish, many colored

ban-: to tie

they who were red-belted?

Arkonnessos

island Kara / Bodrum Türkiye

Arkun

many. slow, big, a kind of horse, etc.

su: water

Masthles

 a person who led the Carians of barbarian speech

basıt-

to oppress, to crush; to suppress, to repress, to overwhelm


Tarkondimitos

King of Cilicia

Tarkan

an old Türk title

page 636

Teukros

the founder of Salamis in Cyprus 


toygar

a bird of prey


Iakchus

"Iacchus of the bull's horns", and according to the 1st-century BC historian Diodorus Siculus, it was this older Dionysus who was represented in painting and sculpture with horns, because he “excelled in sagacity and was the first to attempt the yoking of oxen and by their aid to effect the sowing of the seed”

yak

a wild ox of Central Asia

yak is called as grunting ox

Peukolaitis

a town in Ghandara

bük

thicket


Akesines

a river in India

ak-: to flow



Sarmanes

deeply religious man

sarman

very white or very yellow

Sarman is a cat name for the orange cats in modern Türkiye

Karmania

 aplace name in Persia

kara: black

man: emphisizing Suffix (very black)


Sagartoi

a nomadic people that lived in Karmania

sag-: to milk > sagar: milker

sıġır: cattle


Kyrtians

a nomadic people in Persia

kurt

worm


Magoi

Priests

bögü

scholar, physician, shaman


Ouxians

A non-persian Nomadin people

okçu

archer


Kardakians

a Nomadic people who has high felt hats like Kyrgyz kalpak (Ak-kalpak) and kopis as weapon (Kopis is like yataghan knife) and sagaris (from çakar : hammer).

Kardak: they who have light injuries. (> Modern Gazi) kart-: to get an injury, wound. +ak diminutive suffix 

kardak could easily be explained Turkish.

They are called Kardakians, as they are nourished by theft, and "karda" means "manly" and "warlike." Their daily regimen after the gymnastic training is bread, barley cake, cardamom, lumps of salt, and meat roasted or boiled in water, and their drink is water. They hunt by throwing javelins from horses and with bows and slings. In the afternoon they are trained in gardening, gathering roots, making weapons, and the an of fishing and hunting nets. The boys do not touch what they have hunted but it is customary to bring it home. The king establishes prizes for running and the pentathlon. The boys are adorned in gold, since they hold its fiery appearance in honor, and because of this they do not apply it to a corpse, as is also the case with fire. They serve in the army and hold commands for twenty to fifty years, both as foot soldiers and cavalry. They do not make use of an agora, for they neither sell nor buy things. They are armed with a rhomboidal wicker shield, and in addition to quivers they have sagareis and kopides, and on their heads a felt hat like a tower. Their breastplate is made of scales. The clothing of the commanders is triple trousers and a double sleeved chiton as far as the knees, with the undergarment white and the upper brighdy colored. In summer they wear a purple or violet­colored himation and in winter a brightly colored one. Their tiaras are similar to those of the Magoi, and they wear a deep double shoe. Most of the men have a double chiton reaching as far as the middle of the leg, and a strip around the head, and each has a bow and sling.

Kossaians

are mostly archers ­ like the neighboring mountaineers ­ and are always foraging, for they have a territory that is small and poor, so by necessity they live on others and by necessity are strong and all warriors. 

kosay

there is a legendary man named Kosay in Kyrgyz legends


Massabatik

a place name

Basa-batık

bas-: to step, to press, batık: swamp


Sousis

a toponym

Susız

without water, dry land


Thapsakos 


a toponym

tapığsak

servant

tap-: to serve; to worship

Apameia (page 702)

a city name in Syria

apa: father

+m: possessive suffix 1. person singular

apam: my father

Orthagoras

a tyrant who lived in 7th C BC

orta: the middle

goru: to protect

the protected middle: the middle of the empire > the king

Dorakta

island - coast of Carmania

otruk/otrak

island


choinikides (page 778)


cavity; used by Strabo for tidal rock cavities in the 

vicinity of Sinope.


kovuk/koğuk

cavity


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the other parts:

Strabo-words-with-a-possible-Turkic-etymology-part-II

Strabo-words-with-a-possible-Turkic-etymology-part-I

Strabo-words-with-a-possible-Turkic-etymology-part-III

  * A list of words that could have a Türkic etymology in Strabo's Geography: * Strabon'un Coğrafya'sında Türk kökenli olabilece...