Friday, July 5, 2024

Homeric-words-with-a-possible-Turkic-etymology-Letters-I-PHI-CH-PS-O

 



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Homeric words with a possible Turkic etymology letters I - PHI - CH - PS - O 

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Homeric word 

meaning 

Türkic word 

meaning

other info

Ὑάδες 

the Hyades, seven stars in the head of the Bull, whose rising marks the beginning of the rainy season, Il. 18.486†.

yedi

seven


υ?λακόμωρος

loud-barking

ulı- 

to howl, cry


ὑλάωὑλάομαι

bark, bay, bark at, Od. 16.5. (Od.)

ulı- 

to howl, cry


ὑπερ - οπλίζομαι 

vanquish by force of arms

opla-

to attack


ὑπό - βρυχα 

adj. as adv., under water, Od. 5.319†.

obruk

a hole in which water accumulates, small river


ὑπ-ώρεια (ὄρος)

fem. adj. as subst.: foot of a mountain, skirts of a mountain range, pl., Il. 20.218†.

orun

place


Ὕρτακος 

a Trojan, the husband of Arisbe, Il. 13.759 and 771.

urtak / ortak

partner, associate

He was a comrade of King Priam of Troy

Ὕρτιος :

son of Gyrtius, a Mysian, slain by Ajax, Il. 14.511†.

gurt/kurt

wolf

yurt: dwelling place

ὗς , υός (σῦς), acc. ὗν, pl. dat. ὕεσσι:

swine, pig, sow or boar.

PTurk. *sạs-na- pig (свинья): Chuv. sɨsna.



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φέρω 

I. act., bear, carry, bring, convey, in the ordinary ways not needing illustration; more special uses, of the earth yielding fruits, of rendering homage or offerings, bearing tidings, of winds sweeping, driving, scattering things

ver/ber

to give


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χαράδρη(χαράσσω

gully, ravine, mountain torrent, Il. 4.454 and Il. 16.390.

su

water


χελιδών

the swallow

there are many swallow words in Türkic dialects ->

karligac, kalgac, etc.


χέραδος

gravel, pebbles

kayır

gravel


χέρσονδε

to or on the dry land, Il. 21.238†.

kır: mountain (barren?)

Türkic suffix -de: on, at

χέρσος : dry land, shore.

χιτών , ῶνος:

tunic. The χιτώνwas like a shirt, but without sleeves, woollen, and white. It was worn by both men and women, next the body, and confined by a girdle, Od. 14.72

ton

dress


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ψυ?χω

blow, breathe, Il. 20.440†.

bus/pus

fog, smoke


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ὦμος

shoulder

omur/omuz

shoulder


ὥρη 

season, esp. the spring

*jāŕ

spring, summer


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the End, Ende, Bitti!

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Uzunbacak Adem 

Wednesday, July 3, 2024

Homeric-word-zigon-versus-Turkic-chug

 



There is a Homeric word in Autenrieth's book

ζυγόν (Zigon) 

meaning (1) yoke or cross-bar by means of which beasts of draught were attached to whatever was to be drawn (2) straps to fasten the ζεῦγλαι...

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Wiki says:


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Plausible!

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Look at my proposal:

Proto-Türkic word 

*čug 1 bundle 2 to bind, pack, wrap



the following Türkic words above are very similar to that Homeric word, too.

Old Türkish çuğ means oind / bunch (bağ, demet).

There are many other Altaic words that work like a proof for my proposal!

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Would it be an option as its etymology, too?


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Uzunbacak Adem

Tuesday, July 2, 2024

Homeric-words-with-a-possible-Turkic-etymology-Letters-S-and-T

 

Georg AUTENRIETH - Wörterbuch zu den homerischen Gedichten 

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Homeric words with a possible Turkic etymology letters S and T


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Homeric word 

meaning 

Türkic word 

meaning

other info

Σαγγάριος

Sangarius, a river flowing through Bithynia and Phrygia, and emptying into the Euxine, Il. 3.187Il. 16.719.

Sangar/sıngar: one of the two sides, one of a pair > Sangar: only one; +gAr a very old Türkic suffix

sankar: a bird pf prey. There is a commander called Aksankar (White Sankar) in the Turkish history

Sangar: (russischСанга́р; jakutischСангаар) ist eine Siedlung städtischen Typs in der Republik Sacha (Jakutien), meaning in Evenki lang, a hole / Sangar(Russian: Сангар) is a rural locality (a selo) in Kamakhalsky Selsoviet, Laksky DistrictRepublic of DagestanRussia; both areas with this name SANGAR are areas where we can find Türks; ?Sungar a tributary river of Ochotsk Sea.

σάκος , εος:

the great shield. (See cuts Nos. 9, 16, 17.)

sakı-

1 aware 2 be aware, protect 

Beekes suggests a Semitic origin, from the same root as σάκκος (sákkos, “sack”).

σαλπίζω : only aor., σάλπιγξεν,

fig., resounded, quaked, Il. 21.388†.

çal-

to hit, to batter, to make noise,


σβέννυ_μι aor. 1 ἔσβεσενσβέσαν, inf. σβέσσαι, aor. 2 ἔσβη:

trans., quench, extinguish, Il. 23.237; then quell, calm, allay, Il. 9.678Il. 16.621.—Aor. 2, intrans., of fire, go out, Il. 9.471; of wind, go down, cease, Od. 3.182.

sön-

to fade, disappear (пропадать, гаснуть) 

Proto-Altaic siuni: fade, extinguish: Tung. *sī- ( ~ -ǖ-); Mong. *sönü-; Turk. *sȫn-; Jpn. *sín-. 


σῆμα

sign, token, mark, by means of which anything is identified

im

sign

s-mobile?

σι_γή 

silence, only dat. as adv., still, silently.

sım-

1 to talk unintelligibly 2 to whisper (1 говорить нев- нятно 2 шептать): 


σόςσήσόν 

gen. σοῖο: thy, thine (your), usually without article, with art., Il. 1.185Il. 6.457; neut. as subst., ἐπὶ σοῖσι, ‘thy possessions,’ Od. 2.369 ; σὁςπόθοςσὴ ποθή, longing ‘for thee,’ Il. 19.321Od. 11.202.

se/sen

you

PTurk. *sẹ- thou (ты) 


Σούνιον 

Sunium, the southernmost promontory of Attica, Od. 3.278†.

son

back, end, after 



στειλειή (στέλλω)

hole in an axhead for the helve, Od. 21.422

del-/tel-

PTurk. *del- 1 to bore through 2 to cut 3 to open 

s-mobile?

σύ , gen. σέοσεῦσεῖοσέθεν, dat. σοίτοίτεΐν, acc. σέ

thou, thee

se/sen

you


συν - δέωξυνδέω

bind together, bind fast, bind up.

tüg-/düg-

to bind


σῦριγξ , ιγγος:

any tube, hence (1) shepherd's pipe, Pan's - pipe, Il. 10.13Il. 18.526.—(2) spear-case, Il. 19.387.

sırık

stake, pole

Wiki: The γγ implies a Pre-Greek origin because of non-native pronunciation

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τανυ- (τείνω)

stem of an adj., used as a prefix, meaning stretched out long or thin.



Proto Altaic        t ̔āno to stretch, pull: Tung. *tān-; Mong. *teneji-; Jpn. *tana-pik-; Kor. *tằŋ-kắi-. 

τανύωτάνυ_μι(Att. τείνω), aor. (τάνυςσα,

mid. pres. τάνυται, ipf. τανύοντο, aor. part. τανυσσάμενος, pass. perf. τετάνυσται, plup. τετάνυστο, aor. 3 pl. τάνυσθεν, part. τανυσθείς: I. act., stretch, strain, extend, as in ‘stringing’ a bow, a lyre, Od. 21.407, 409; ‘holding horses to their speed’ with the reins, Il. 23.324; ‘drawing’ the shuttle to and fro in weaving, Il. 23.761; and in general of ‘arranging’ anything long or broad, spears, spits, tables, Il. 9.213Od. 15.283Od. 1.138. Metaph., ἔριδα πολέμοιομάχηνπόνονἔριδος πεῖραρΞ389, Il. 13.359.—II. pass. and mid., be stretched or extended, be tight; the cheeks ‘became full’ again, Od. 16.175; of mules, horses ‘stretching out,’ ‘laying themselves out’ to run, Il. 16.375, 475, Od. 6.83νῆσοςτετάνυσται, ‘extends,’ Od. 9.116.— Mid., subjectively, Il. 4.112; reflexive, Od. 9.298.



Proto Altaic        t ̔āno to stretch, pull: Tung. *tān-; Mong. *teneji-; Jpn. *tana-pik-; Kor. *tằŋ-kắi-. 

τελαμών 

(root ταλ): any belt or strap to bear or support something, hence (1) sword-belt, baldric (see cuts Nos. 86, 109).—(2) shield-strap, Od. 11.610Il. 14.404 (see cut).—(3) thong attached to the ankles of a dead body, to drag it away, Il. 17.290

PTurk. *tēl 

1 wire, string 2 thong 3 strand 

Proto Altaic t ̔ialo to hang, strap: Tung. *tōli; Mong. *telej; Turk. *TAlk-; Jpn. *tàr-; Kor. *tắr-. 


τέμενος 

a piece of land marked off and reserved as the king's estate, Od. 11.185; or as the sacred precinct of a god (grove with temple), Od. 8.363.



Proto Altaic tĕma ( ~ -o) net string, net needle: Tung. *teme-; Mong. *tamasu; Turk. *temen; Jpn. *tamua. 

τεσσαράκοντα

40: From Proto-Indo-European*kʷetwr̥̄ḱomt, from earlier *kʷetwr̥-dḱomt (“four-ten”)

tört-on

4 x 10

πετταράκοντα(pettarákonta) — Boeotianτεσσεράκοντα(tesserákonta) — Ionicτεταράκοντα(tetarákonta) — Doricτετράϙοντα(tetráqonta) — Sicilian Ionic, τετρώκοντα(tetrṓkonta) — Doricτετταράκοντα(tettarákonta) — Attic

τέττα 

voc.: a form of familiar address, as of a younger friend to an elder, Father; Diomed to Sthenelus, Il. 4.412†.

ata

father


Τεῦκρος

Teucer, son of Telamon and Hesione, half-brother of Ajax, the best archer before Troy, Il. 12.350, 371 φ., Il. 13.170Il. 6.31Il. 8.273, 322, Il. 15.484.

toygar

a bird of prey


Τευταμίδης 

son of Teutamias, Lethus, Il. 2.843†.

Tutamış

name of a Türkish clan/tribe 


τόξον , root τυκτυχεῖν), pl. τόξα:

bow, freq. the pl. for the sing., as the weapon was made of two horns joined by a centre-piece, see Il. 4.105-111.

ok

arrow

okçu: archer

Τρώιλος

Troïlus, son of Priam and Hecuba, Il. 24.257

tugrul

bird of pray

see Hungarian Turul

τυ_ρός

cheese

There are many Tur/Tor words with the meaning cheese in many Türkic dialects


see Hungarian Túró meaning cheese (loanword from a Türkic lang, acc. to Wiki).














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