Wednesday, July 12, 2023

Thracian-names-Turkic-names-onomastics


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 link: https://hal.science/hal-03916090/document

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Under the link above there is a list of Thracian names.

I have "examined" all of them through the Turkic-window.

The result can be viewed below. I think there are many similarities between Turkic and Thracian onomastics.

Here my list:

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TURKISH VERSION:

Yukarıdaki bağlantının altında Trakya isimlerinin bir listesi var.


Hepsini Türk penceresinden “inceledim”.


Sonuç aşağıda görülebilir. Türk ve Trak onomastiği arasında pek çok benzerlik olduğunu düşünüyorum.


İşte listem:


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Uzunbacak Adem

Thracian name 

Related info/meaning

Possible Turkic name 

Meaning

Further info

Source: https://hal.science/hal-03916090/document


Αλλουζελμις

Zelmis: the Western scholars derive it from IE *ḱol -mo-

 from the root *

ḱel -‘to cover, hide


 

Salma 

lasso or tax (<Sal-: to entangle; to let go)

al: red, ala: veriegated



Αρδουβαρις


Art, ard: the pass in the mountains

Baris: leopard

>Mountain leopard



Αθυς

Athys

at-:

to throw, to hit (ok atmak=shoot arrows)

at: horse



Αττας

Attas

Ata

Father, descendant




αυλου:

aulu-

Ulu

great, holy

as Prefix ULU (the Great …)

oğlu: son (like -ovič in Slavic)


Αυλουκενις

Ulu-ken

Ulugan

he who howls

Old Turkic -GAn suffix (verb+gan = he who „does“ sth often)

Ulugan: Tuvan for big


Αβλουπορι

Aulupor

Ulubor

holy earth

bor: wine



Αυλουζελμις

Auluzelmis

Ulusalma

holy lasso

Çalma: a kind of headdress?



Αυλυζα̣[νου]

Auliuzenus/Auluzanus

Uluçan

holy morning dawn 

Tan: Morning dawn (old Turkic) is stil being used as male name in modern Turkiye



[---]βαλος

-balus

bala

child




Βασκιλας

Bascila

BAŞGIL means the one with white (hair) on the head

Or suffix -gil makes sad belong to a family or house.

A nice Turkic name

i wrote a blog about that name on 01.07.23


Βαστακιλας

Bastacila

BAŞ: head, BAŞTA: in front, the first

suffix -gil makes sad belong to a family or house.




Βαστος

Bastos

BASTI: he had pressed, or he gave a raid

Basty or Bastı(AzerbaijaniBasdı) is an evil spirit or goblin in Turkic mythology which rides on people's chests while they sleep, bringing on bad dreams (or nightmares).




βεσι-

besi- (like in Besilas, Besidelthes)

beš

5

[ΒεσιλαςΒεσειλας: Beš-il > 5 cities



Βιλκης

Bilkis

Bilge

Wise




Βισάλτιος

Bisaltios

BAŞ: head (Chieftain)

Alti: under (the second in ranking)

başaltı: the second chieftain




βιθυν-

bithyn- like in Βιθυνή (f.) (ethn.)Bithynia (f.) (ethn.) 

bütün

whole, all




βλασα, -βλοσα (dac.)


Blasa, Blosa

Bula- 

spring, water boiling from the ground

Bula-k: water spring (German Quelle)



Blicises, [Βλικισης], Βλικεισης



Bilge

Wise

Bilgisiz: not wise



Βοραϊδις

(Boraydis) Buraides (cf. Βουραειδεις).


Bora (Proto-Turkic)

north wind; to snow heavily

compare Boreas



βρου-, bru-


buru

to whirl, wind round




[Βρουζελμις], Βρ̣ουζελμεις


Bruzelmis

Buru-salma

whirling lasso




bur-, βουρ-, -buris, -βουρις


buru

to whirl, wind round

like βρου-, bru-?



Burilla


Böri

Wolf




Burinianus



Böri

Wolf




Buris

Latin: Burius

Böri

Wolf




Καριλας 

Karilas

karı

to geld old, old, experienced 

Old?



Citzosis (dac.?)


KIDI: border, shore

KIDISIZ: borderless




Κοστοκος (?)


kös- 1 to hobble, fetter 2 fetters 


Köstek: fetters




Cotys 


Kotuz

Yak bull

There are many Kotuz in Turkish History



Dacus


takış or tokuş



tokuş: battle, war



Δαγιλλου

Cf. le nom bithynien Δαγις.

Dag

Mountain

Dagli: he who lives on a mountain, not civilized



Dales


Dal

Ocean

Proto Turk: (A)Dal: friend, companion



Damanai


Taman, Daman

foot, sole




Δαλουζελμις

La lecture correcte est Αλλουζελμις.

ALLI-SALMA

ALLI: Reddish, SALMA: Lasso




Datiscolus


tatış?






Decibalus


bala:

child




Δηδηγνου

Didignos

Tetik

bold, hero 




dez-, δηζ -


tiz-, diz-

to run away




Διγιπορις

Digiporis, Δειγιπορις


boris/poris

Bars; Tis: yellow 

Böri? 



Διλης

?Dile

Dile/Tile 

to request, to demand

Dil/Til: tongue; Dilli: he who has a tongue (much speaking?)

possible graphie phrygienne du nom bithynien Διλ(λ)ης.


Διλιπορις

Diliporis

Dilli Pars

Leopard with tongue 




dine-, dini-, δινε-, δινι-


Din/Tin

Strong, healthy

Tin: breathe

There are names with this „prefix“: Dinianus, Dinicenthus, Dinis, Διντας



Διπορις 


Böri

wolf




Diszo, Dizo


Tüz/Düz

to organize, arrange

Tiz (to line up) = Tüz ?



Dizacenthus


Tüz/Düz





Dizala

Διζαλας 

Tüz/Düz

Diz al: 

imperative for „organize“



Dizo, Dizzo, Diso, [Διζων], Διζζων


Tüz/Düz





Dolanus


tol-

to push, collide

Dola/Dala-: to bite



Dolasenis


tol-





Dolazenus


tol-





Doliselmis

Δοληζελμις

Doli-: full

salma: lasso




Δορισης 

Dorisis

Doru

the color of the horse 

torı: dark brown



Dura/Durazis


Dur-: to stop > Tura/Dura?

Tor?= Grandchild

> Toraman: very big, fat?



Duras


Dur-: to stop > Tura/Dura?





DVRHAS


Dur-: to stop > Tura/Dura?





Durisa


Dur-: to stop > Tura/Dura?





Dyzeli


Tüz/Düz

to organize, arrange

el: land, home > Dizel: he who organized the land



Εια

ia

ay

moon




Ισβιζελμις

Isi Salma

Izbe: Home, small home, simple house

salma: lasso




-la, -λα, -las, -λας, -lla, -llas 


le, ile

with…




Μασαρτας


basar

bas: to hit, attack suddenly

>Basarabya



Matugi

Matygi

BAT-: to sink

Batık: sunk

BATIG: swamp, marsh



Moκαπαιβης

Mucapaibes

Buka

Bull

Bay: rich

Μοκαπολις: buka-balik > bull-city


Moesicus

a people

Büzik

dance, to dance




Mucacenthus


Buka

Bull




Mucapor


Buka

Bull

por: wine



Mucasenis

Mucazanus

Buka

Bull

Çan: cymbal



Μουκασης


Buka

Bull

BUKACI: he who sells / owns bulls



Μουκασουκος 


Buka





?Μουκατης


Buka

Bull




Mucatra


Buka





Mucatralis


Buka





Mucazenus


Buka





Μουκαζουκος


Buka

cIk: diminutive 




Muca[---] :


Buka





paib-, παιβ-, -paibes, -παιβης


Bay

richt, respected




Paibes


Bay





?Paebion


Bay





Παιλας


Bay





-por, -πορ, -πορις, -poris, -porus


Por/Bor

Wine

where you can plant / produce „wine“



pyr-, pir-, pur-, πυρ-

Πύρρις, Pyrrhus, Πυρρίας, Pyrula, Πυρουλοππτου, Pyrusala, Πυρουζαις

Bir= ONE

Bir-: to unite; united 




Σαιγης

vallée du moyen Strymon

say/çay

little river




Sala (Artezian)

Spring

sal-:

 let go




Σατοκος


Satuk

commerce, sell, selling, sold

SATUK BUGRA HAN (a ver famous Turkic King)

i have written a blog about it


Ταρολας

Tarula

tarı-:

to cultivate (the ground)

darı: millet



Tarusina


tarı-:





Μεγάλης Ταρουθινου

toponym

tarı-:





Teres


diri/tiri/tere

lively, healthy, 


Τηρηπαρα: toponym = Diri (p)  ara


thrac-, θραικ-, θρᾳκ


otruk

island

Otraq: where you dwells? < Otur-: to sit



torc-, τορκ-


Türk





Τορκοσινιης


Türk





Torcus


Türk





Torquatus


Türk





Ζηγηρος


çigir

a path, goat path




Ζιγηλας


Çikil/Çigil

Çik: border il: land

Borderlander?



Ζαρδοηλας

Zardonlou

Sarı? yellow

Donlu: with dress

he who has yellow dress on?




















































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