Sunday, September 25, 2022

Ololyge-cry-while-praying-Turkic-ulu-uli-

 

Howling wolf - (wikimedia)

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Pauly says: 


Olyloge is a a galling scream. (gellender Schrei)

He is matching it with Sanskrit ululi-h, ulula-h, Latin Ululate, Semitic (Hebrew) hallelujah, etc.

What about Proto Altaic and Proto Turkic?


*ūlo to cry, howl: Mong. *uli-; Turk. *ūlɨ-; Jpn. *rá-mp-; Kor. *ūr-.


There is an other possibility to match it with
Proto-Turkic: *ulug meaning big, great (Proto Altaic ulu)
if it should/could be about a religion howling, crying. 


Both proposals by Starostin/Dybo.

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Possible?


Uzunbacak Adem 

Dionysus-epiclesis-Oikuros-and-Turkic-ev-kur-koru

 

Dionysos - (wiki)
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Mr. Pauly writes about an epiclesis of Dionysos: 

OIKUROS



This word means keeper/watcher of the house! (a "homebuilder?").

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Look at the Proto-Turkic words: 

üy: house/home and kur-: to erect a building, to establish


For Oikuros > Evkoru or Evkur would be now the equivalent modern Turkish words

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Kur- could be the root of the word KURGAN (the other root for this 100% Turkic word would be koru- (to protect).


Starostin/Dybo dictionary

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Uzunbacak Adem 


Saturday, September 24, 2022

Zeus-Ogmenos-Turkic-Oegmen

 

Zeus - (wiki)


Today's issue is an Anatolian epiclesis of Zeus called OGMENOS!



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Mr. Pauly says that this word is of Anatolian (Kleinasien) origin. 


Meaning? We don't know.

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Now it is my turn:

There is a verb called ögmen meaning "to be praised".

It is a word that the Christians use in connection with the God:

Acc. to wiktionary:

Lord be praised

  1. Used by Christians to thank God.
  2. Expressing surprised happiness or thankfulness.
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Were there people who praised the God in a Turkic language in Anatolian in ancient times?

There is an other epiclesis (nickname) of Zeus > Ombrios (Rainbringer) and Turkic YAMBIR. You can read below more:



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Uzunbacak Adem


Sunday, September 18, 2022

Paulys-Oebarsios-versus-Turkic-Aybars

Turkic Pars - Bars - like in Scythian name Abaris 



Pauly Oëbarsios adlı dayısından bahseder Atilla'nın/1

Türkçe Olma olasılığı vardır>Aybars der Maenchen-Helfen/2
ve devam eder: 1. yy'da yaşamış Romalı Flaccus'un şiirinde adı geçen Oebasus da aynı ad olmasın?/3 

Ama imkansız der, bence bir Türk adının 1. yy Roma'sında olabileceğini kabul etmez, edemez. Şiirde bir de Oncheus var (Ocreus da var)
On ve Ok da Türkçe adlarda geçen sözcüklerdir.

ISKITYALI ABARIS HAKKINDA:

Scythian Abaris

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ENGLISH VERSION:
Pauly mentions his uncle named Oëbarsios. 

Otto Maenchen-Helfen says it is possible that this name is Turkish > Ay-bars (Moon and leopard)

I have written about a similar name ABARIS, a Scythian:


and continues: Shouldn't Oebasus, mentioned in the poem of the Roman Flaccus, who lived in the 1st century BC, be the same name?/3

But he doesn't accept it because it is very early for a Turkic name in 1. Century AD

 
BUT: There's also Oncheus in the poem (There's also Ocreus)

On and Ok are very old Turkic words. 

Now the pics:

Paulys RE - Attilas Oheim Oebarsios - Aybars 


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Otto Maenchen-Helfen : Die Welt der Hunnen
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Quelle/Source: Oebasus/Oncheus/Ocreus

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Update: 11.10.2022

a new blog about a water-leopard

Sybaris

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Uzunbacak Adem

Paulys-RE-Topic-titles-with-focus-on-Turkic-Letters-L-M-N




Paulys-RE-Topic-titles-with-focus-on-Turkic-Letters L & M & N


Hello again, 

the new letters I have examined by Paulys RE > L - M - N

I focused on the names related to Scythians, Sarmatians, Huns, Turks and looked up the possible Turkic etymologies and there are many hydronyms with the PreGreek suffix sso/ssu

Source: Paulys Realencyclopädie der classischen Altertumswissenschaft

Paulys RE

There are many words! Look:



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Paulys

Meaning

Info

Turkic

Meaning 

Other Info

Labara 1

a place name


PTurk. *(i)āra 


space between

Turkic ara

Labara 2

German river Laaber


PTM *arbu- ‘space between two river branches’; Mong. arba- 


<Dybo/Starostin dictionary


Lakriassos

a place name


su

water


Larisos

a river


su

water


Lemessos

Limasol


su

water


Lesura

a river


su

water


Lesyros

a river


su

water


Leukophrys

white fomaning, Nickname of Tenedos(Bozcaada)


Köpür-

to foam


Libyssos

a river


su

water


Lissos

a river and a place name


su

water


Lyrnessos

older name of Tenedos


su

water


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Magalassos

a town by a river


su

water


Mariscu (Marisus?)

Mureš river (Dacia)

Μάρισος?

su

water

beri: here, in here?

Markala

place name in Cappadocia


kala

kal-: to stay


Marnas 2

a river name

ὁ Μάρνας (-αντος),

su

water


Maroboudon 

a place name 


budun/bodun

clan, tribe


Marpessa

daughter of River God Euenos


su

water


Marpessos

a town in Asia Minor


su

water


Marsyas

name of many (<5) rivers


su

water


Masdoranoi

a tribe name in Parthia


bastır-> to press, to pinch, to swoop > bastıran: he who presses, swoops



Massaioi

a tribe in Scythia


bas- <bastır-> to press, to pinch, to swoop > bastıran: he who presses, swoops



Mausos

a place at the shore


su

water


Megalassos

a place name 


su

water


Melanos

name of 2 mountains


bel

mountain pass, ridge, 


Melsus

a river name


bel: hill

su: water


Melsyagum

name of swamps


su

water


Merisos

A mountain where the river Maritza is born 


su

water


Miltokythes

2 Thracian men


bil = bil- prefix meaning together

tokıt-: to hit, knock, beat


Minassos

a place name


su

water


Misis/Misius

a river name


su

water


Mokarsos

a place name


su

water


Mokissos

a place name

hatte Mineralquellen

su

water

baka: frog, buka: bull

Molatzes 

a person name


tzi: modern Greek has this suffix from the Turkic 

tzi indicates profession: Devetzi, Kouyumtzi (Jeweller)

bula: to mix, to make chaos

Momoassos

a place name


su

water


Moreses(Marisia)

a river name


su

water


Morsynos

a river


su

water


Muturgures

a people


Look at Kurutgur, Utrugur, etc

<ogur/oguz


Mygissos

a town in Caria


su

water


Mykalessos

a town


su

water


Myonnesos

2 place names


su

water


Myrmissos

a place name


su

water


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Nebrissa

a place name 


su

water

say: a small river

Naissus

a place name


su

water


Nanassos

a place name


su

water


Narasa/Narassos

place name

at Kandak-dere source

su

water


Narkasos

a place name


su

water


Nessos

A river god


su

water


Nomasus

village in venetia 

maybe a village at river Torre

su

water


Nonissus

A god of a spring


su

water



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Other letters from Paulys RE?

here: Letter K from Paulys RE


Uzunbacak Adem

pliny-mieotis-region-and-its-nations

  * Pliny writes about some tribal names near Lake Mieotis. The interesting ones for me are: Sauromatæ Gynæcocratumeni (the husbands of the ...