UncertainEtymology-gale

Gale means strong wind, especially at sea. 

It has an uncertain origin.

I propose: Turkish "yel"

We can begin with Etymologist Nisanyan. He points out a word from Uyghur Language in a very old text: Yel is "a wind that can knock down a ship"

acc. to the link below: 

https://www.nisanyansozluk.com/?k=yel

The dialects for Turkish languages offer a very big selection of "YEL" words that are similar to Hungarian szél (wind):

Check it out:

Kyrgisian: cel (read it like dschell)

Altai Turkish: Cel-Salkin 

Kazan Tatar: cil (dschill)

Kazakish: jel (read 'j' like in French "Jacques")

I think, my suggestion is a good additional info for a word whose origin is uncertain!

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PIE-As-versus-Turkish-Ağız

I have written about Latin Mouth "os", meaning mouth.
Look at the link below for further info:

https://uzunbacakadem.blogspot.com/2019/07/latin-os-turkish-agiz.html

I was tracking further and now have the book

Vergleichendes Wörterbuch der Indogermanischen Sprachen;by Fick, August, 1890

in my hand.

Indoeuropean (and Sanscrit) word "âs" means mouth, too. Turkish ağız (read it like German "aus") is very compatible with that. And this, not only in sound but also in meaning. Even more similar than the Latin os.

There are many more examples.
Look at these Turkish dialects:

Kazan Tatar: aus
Sagay: âs
Tuva: aas

Tuvan and Sagay Turkish word "aas" or "âs" is the same word like in Porto Indo European, for the same body part.

And now it gets spectacular=> Hittites had called this part of the face "ais". It is apparently a very long tradition with the name of this important organ.


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Pic: wikipedia

Sources: Tuncer Gülensoy: Köken Bilgisi Sözlügü

               Ismet Zeki Eyuboglu: Türk Dilinin Etimoloji Sözlügü

ordo/slecg-wyrhta/örs/ur/urdu

This time a heavy theme:

Amboss-Anvil-Örs

1. Today I am writing about Hammer and Anvil.
2. Indogerman root ORDO, (URDO?) means hammer. Like you see above, the earlier forms of this word are ORRD, UIRD, G-ORRD, ORD, ORZ,(H)IRD-AN, etc...
3. There is a very interesting Turkish word "ÖRS" meaning anvil. Örs comes from the ancient root OR-/UR- (in today's Turkish VUR-). OR-/UR- is a verb meaning to hit, to knock, to hammer (schlagen, hauen, hammern, klopfen). 
4. When we take the verb(action) OR-/UR-, the words "Hammer and Anvil" become similar to each other: >> with a hammer we knock on anvil, they knock each other. Breton word ORZ (for hammer) is nearly same with the Turkish ÖRS (for anvil). It is possible, that this "verb" is included in IE words "Ordo" and "slecg-wyrhta" (Old English for one who works with a hammer, a worker in metals), maybe "he who hammers"? (Wyrh = vur?)
5. When this workers work is done, you can say in Turkish "o urdu" meaning "he hammered". 
6.                                         >>>>>>>>Similar<<<<<<<<? 

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Pic: wikipedia

Source: August Fick - Vergleichendes Wörterbuch der indogermanischen Sprachen

PIE-getto-versus-Turkish-göt

Hello and a good friday,

today I want to write about ass; Turkish göt.

I take a look at the book on my desk. It is "the comparative dictionary of Indogerman languages - Word-hoard of Celtic section," by August Fick, 1894.

We see the word getto (no! not ghetto) meaning back, bottom, coccyx, ass; Arsch, Steiss.

Old Irish gett, Old Celtic getto, Irish gead (haunch), all meaning the same -> bottom!

And now the Turkish word GÖT!

Göt means bottom, ass, back, Arsch, Hintern, too!

Göt derived from Ancient Turkish köt (another version -kıç-) for back, ridge and ass. 

Similar? Same? 

I think, the Turks and the Indo-Europeans were longer neighbors than we accept.

Uzunbacak Adem

Vénus de Lespugue

UncertainEtymology-calcaneus

Today a blog from the serial: 

The words with uncertain etymology which I found by 

www.etymonline.com

*

calcaneus  is the bone of the heel. According to etymonline.com word origin is not clear (uncertain). It says: perhaps from Etruscan (in my opinion ->  most probably) and it shows us a Bulgarian word "kalka" as a similar word meaning "hip, thigh". 

(please see the screenshot above 
for more info)!

wiktionary says about:

calx (heel): 

"Of uncertain origin, with possibilities including:

• An extension of the Proto-Indo-European root *(s)kel- (“to bend”).
• Etruscan origin
• From Proto-Indo-European *klHk(ᵂ)-(n)-, related to Serbo-Croatian kuk (“thigh, hip”), Bulgarian кълка (kǎlka, “hip”), Russian колк (kolk, “bony stump”), Latviankulksnis (“hock”), Lithuanian kulksnis (“ankle”), Old Prussian culczi (“hip”)"

Ok, so far so good but not complete. 
They have not compared the Turkish language yet.

I do it!

I have an assumption and a suggestion:

There are 2 words in Turkish language that we can compare with calcaneus.

The first one is: kalça: like Bulgarian word "kalka" (see the screenshot above) it means hip, buttock. It is an old kal- meaning to stay (on your hip?) or the organ you need for staying somewhere? 
My grandma said always : "let your buttock smell like earth" (originally "götün yer koksun"), as she wanted to say "stay a while". (Attention: Old Prussian 'culczi' is very similar in sound to kalça)

or 

a second root kalk- meaning to stand up. Maybe you need the heel bone (calcaneus) to stand up. "Kalkan" means in Turkish -> he who stands up. 
Kalkan means an army shild, too. 

calcaneus

Furthermore: compare Greek κάλτσα -> a very long sock and Italian calza -> stocking (Info by Tuncer Gülensoy).

And Spanish calzar -> to wear?


Uzunbacak Adem

An-Additional-Etymo-List->Latin-Turkish-20words

Hello again, 

today a comparison list of 20 words in Latin + Turkish.

Some of them are similar, some very similar and some same.

What do you think?

Latin word	Meaning	Turkish word	Meaning	Other Info
calamus	reed, cane	kamış	reed, cane
calidus	warm, hot	ılık	warm, (not hot)	older version: çılug, çılu
callum	hard, thick	kalın	hardened, thick, intense
cauda	tail	kuyruk	tail	old version: kudruk, kudurga
cedo	to go, step aside	git- (old version get-, ket-)	to go	adım: step
ciere	summon, call up	çağır-, çığır-	to cry, call up, summon
buxus	a box tree	bük (çalılık)	bush, thicket
derm	skin	deri	skin	German: Leder
capere	Arrest, capture, occupy	kap-	capture, occupy	Turkish root: kapa-: arrest
cevere, ceveo, cevi	flatter, adulate	sev-, sevi	love, to love, to make love	Turkish sekiz: 8 <=> IE six, sechs: 6
vadum	channel, ford	adım	step	Old version: adak=> ayak: foot
gravis	important, heavy	ağır	important, heavy, expensive	another Turkish version: değer-
hil (old version ghil)	cheerful	gül-	to smile, to laugh
mel	honey	bal	honey
vir	man, hero	er	man, warrior
tactus	touch	teg-, deg-	touch	Ancient Turkish teg-: to reach the enemy, to make a war => Tactic?=degdik?
codex	trunk of tree, account book	kütük	trunk of tree, family book
coetus	sexual intercourse	kucak	literally: lap, embrace	kucakla- : derived fro kuç: to make love (nisanyan)
committo	bring together, unite	kamu	kama, kamu: all, together, society	Mongolian kamug: to get together
aranea	spider	örümcek	spider	ör-: to knit, to weave

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