Friday, April 26, 2024

Homeric-Greek-suffixes-me-then-evrsus-Turkic-me-den


Autenrieth - Homeric words

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Bir kenarda dursun!

Autenrieth'i okurken gözüme 2 Yunanca ek çarptı! İlki -μα/-ma eki, fiilden ad yapıyor/1




Eski Türkçe'de var bu ek, aynı işlevde: dövme, düğme

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Bir de ilk olarak Eski Uygurca'da görülen -den/-dan ayrılma eki var!
Yunanca -θεν/then de aynı işlevde/2-3



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Oku!


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ENGLISH VERSION:

Keep this on mind!
While reading Autenrieth, 2 Greek affixes caught my eye! The first one is the -μα/-ma suffix, making a noun from the verb/1






This suffix exists in Old Turkish, with the same function: 
like in döv-me, düg-me 

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There is also a suffix -den/-dan, which was first seen 
in Old Uyghur, meaning "from which, from there"

Greek -θεν/then has the same function/2-3 





Keep digging further!

More suffixes?

here:


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Uzunbacak Adem

Saturday, April 20, 2024

Homeric-words-with-possible-Turkic-etymo-Letters-D-and-E

Autenrieth Georg - Wörterbuch zu den homerischen Gedichten

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Homeric words with a possible Turkic etymology

Letters D & E

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Homeric word 

meaning 

Türkic word 

meaning

other info

δαήρ

husband’s brother, brother-in-low

PTurk. *dāj- uncle 


dayı: mother’s brother

daj-er?

δαΐς 

combat



PMong. *dajin war 

δαίς , δαιτός(δαίνυ_μι)

feast, banquet, meal

toy

feast


-δε 

inseparable enclitic suffix, appended to accusatives, denoting direction towards

-de

locative suffix


δέρμα 

skin, leather

deri

skin, leather

there are baby deer words in this dictionary

δίκαιος (δίκη)

right, righteous, just.—Adv., δικαίως.

dik

vertical

physical position of the righteous humans?

δίκτυον 

net, for fishing, Od. 22.386†.

Tug dam, fish trap (запруда, верша): OTurk. tuɣ (Orkh.); Karakh. tuɣ (MK); Uygh. tuɣ; Bashk. dial. tɨw; Kirgh. tuq; Khak. tuɣ; Shr. tuɣ; Tv. duɣ-da- ‘to make a partition’; Tof. duɣ; Yak. tū. 

A Western isogloss. The Turk. form may reflect a con- tamination with *togi ‘mound, dam’ q. v. 

­t ̔ukV ( ~ -k ̔-) dam, fishing net: Tung. *tuki-; Mong. *togsija-; Turk. *Tug. 

δι_νεύω 

turn round and round, whirl; of a quoit, ἧκε δὲδι_νήσα_ς, sent it ‘whirling,’ i. e. making it whirl, Il. 23.840; of ‘twirling’ the heated stake thrust into the eye of the Cyclops, ἐνὀφθαλμῷδι_νέομενOd. 9.388; intrans. and pass., of dancers and tumblers, Il. 18.494Od. 4.19; birds circling in the air, Il. 23.875; eyes rolling, Il. 19.680; and persons roaming about, Od. 9.153Od. 18.63.

tın-

to breath, to rest


δορός (δέρω)

leather bag

deri

skin, leather


δρατός (δέρω)

flayed (dress yüzülmüş)

deri

skin, leather


δρεπάνη and δρέπανον

sickle, Il. 18.551and Od. 18.368.

tarı-

to cultivate

Modern darı: millet

δύναμις

power, strength

tın-

to breathe, to rest

PTurk. *dɨŋ 1 very, strongly 2 strong, powerful 3 healthy 4 power 5 compact, dense (of earth) 6 to become strong 7 virgin soil 

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ἑανόςεἱανός

robe, garment of goddesses and women of distinction.

yen/yeng

sleeve 


ἔαρ

spring

yar

spring/summer

Modern Türkish yaz: summer

ἔγχος 

spear

süngü

Yakut üngü

Acc. to Beekes, Pre Greek word

ἐδητύς ,

food

et-mek

bread

PMong. *ide- to eat (есть) 


εἴκελος 

like, similar, resmebling

iki

2


εἰνάτερες

brothers' wives

yenge

brothers' wives

<yan: one’s side ?> she who came to one’s side (into a family)

εἴρη:

meeting-place (equiv. to ἀγορά), pl., Il. 18.531†.

yer

place, soils, earth


εἰρήνη (εἴρηται): 

peace



PMong. *eje, *eŋ-ke peace, quietness (мир, покой) 

εἰρο - πόκος

woolly-fleeced, woolly

eyir/eğir

to twist, to spin 

to spin the wool?

εἶρος 

wool, fleece, Od. 4.135 and Od. 9.426.

eyir/eğir

to twist, to spin 

to spin the wool?

εἰς - άνταἐσάντα

in the face, straight at, straight forward.

öŋ/yöŋ: 

face, front side

ön/on

εἴσ-ειμι 

εἰς/ἐς=into

interior of smth. 


ἔκ-βασις 

landing-place

βασις=step

bas-: to press on


ἐκ - γελάω 

laugh out; γελάω

gül-

to laugh


ἐκ-μυζάω 

suck out

Emig, emcek

breast; to suck


ἐκ-πατάσσω

strike out

bet

face, a strike on a face? > modern Turkish pataklamak: to hit 

Kor. *pat- to strike against, push, gore with the horns; PJpn. *pàtà-k- to flap, clap, slap 

ἐκ-προ-καλέω 

having called him forth to herself, Od. 2.400†.

oku/oqu

to call, recite


ἑκυρή 

mother-in-law.

eke

mother, elder sister


ἑκυρός 

father-in-law

aga

elder; elder brother, father

PTurk. *(i)āka 1 elder brother; elder uncle 

ἑκώνἑκοῦσα (ϝεκ.)

willingly, intentionally, of one's own will

kendü/kentü

self, himself (сам): OTurk. kentü (Orkh., OUygh.); Karakh. kendü 

Dolg. gini ‘he’, gien ‘own’ 

ἐλαφη-βόλος 

deer-hunter (elaphi: deer)

elig?

deer


ἕλιξ

Anything twistedwinding, or spiral.



PTurk. *ēĺ- to spin 


ἕλκος 

wound, sore, Il. 19.49

alangad-: to become weak

: the worst of all, bad

PTurk. *ăl- 1 to become weak 2 bad 3 to be vile (of a man), to turn septic (of a wound) 

ἐλλόςἑλλός 

young deer, Od. 19.228†.

PTurk. *elik roebuck, wild goat 


PMong. *ili new-born deer 

ἕλος 

meadow - land, marsh

PTurk. *jāĺ-ɨl 1 green 2 yellow 

>yeşil: freen


ἐλπίς , ίδος

hope

PTurk. *ɨĺan- / *iĺen- to believe, trust 


iĺkV to hope, believe Proto Altaic root

ἔν-αντα 

over against

ön/öng

front


ἔραζε

upon the ground

yer

earth, ground

wiki: Resembles Proto-Germanic*erþō (“earth, ground, soil”), whence Gothic𐌰𐌹𐍂𐌸𐌰 (airþa), Old Norse jǫrðOld English eorþeEnglish earth, and Proto-Celtic *arwī, whence Welsh erw(“field”). Possibly all come from Proto-Indo-European*her- (“earth”), but the reconstruction is not certain.

ἔραμαιἐράομαι 

(aor. become) enamoured of, in love with

am-

ăm- 1 gentle, quiet 2 to love, desire, rejoice 

>amir- in other dialects

ἐργάζομαι

work, do, perform

erk

strength


ἔργον 

work, deed, act, thing

erk

strength


ἐρι_νεός 

wild fig-tree

erik: plumb

Proto Altaic: ­èrì a k. of fruit: Mong. *üril; Turk. *erük; Jpn. *ìtàpi; Kor. *ɨrɨm.

PTurk. *jẹrük 1 alder 2 cedar 

Ἐρι_νύς ,

the Erinnys, pl., the Erinnyes (Furiae), goddesses who fulfil curses and avenge crimes

iyren-

to hate

Beekes: Pre-Greek word

ἔριονεἴριον

wool, Od. 4.124Il. 12.434, pl., Il. 3.388

eyir-

to twist, to spin 

Beekes: Pre-Greek word

ἔρις 

strife, contention, rivalry

*ersi

mean, nasty


ἑτερ-αλκής

lending strength to the other party, i. e. to the party previously inferior

öte-

the other side, the far side

al-: to take; el: hand, PTurk Alk- to finish; destroy 


ἑτερ-ήμερος

on alternate days, pl.

öte-

the other side, the far side

the other days? the far days to come?

ἕτερος 

the other or one of two (alter); pl., ἕτεροι, one or the other party,

öte-

the other 


There are many ETHER words meaning always other





εὖγμα

boast

ög-/öv-

to praise


εὕδω 

sleep

udı-

to sleep

Sumerian udi: to sleep; See Greek ἀωτέω: meaning sleep

εὔ-ζυγος 

well - yoked, of a ship, i. e. ‘well - beamed,’ or according to others, ‘well - benched,’ Od. 13.116Od. 17.288.

çik

fence


ἔσχατος 

furthest, remotest, extremest, last, only of place; of the Aethiopians

kat-

to add


εὔληρα 

reins

yular

reins


εὔ - πωλος 

abounding in horses, with fine horses, epith. of Ilium, Il. 5.551Od. 2.18.

Yabı (Yabılı: with horses)

horse


there are many εὐρύ word meaning wide—-


yar-?

to split make wider?













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